NFL Draft I guess this means Gholston is a Chief? - Page 12

kcfan82 · 04-22-2008, 09:39 PM

Fine by me....

**Rausch** · 04-23-2008, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam

And if I saw a QB out there that I thought was clearly better than Croyle, I'd say go for it. As it stands I'm not convinced. We have sacrificed the team's best player for this draft. I don't want to come away with a back-up QB in the first round.

Unless we add 2 probowl lineman before camp we're going to see at least 2 deep on the depth chart at QB anyway...

**wazu** · 04-23-2008, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

were you saying that about allen before we drafted him

No. I'd never heard of him. I pray we strike gold this year like we did with him. I also know it's very unlikely. Whereas, if we had actually kept him, the idea of striking gold with Jared Allen would be much more likely.

It's about time for me to go to bed now. Maybe I'll wake up tomorrow and find this is all just a horrible, horrible nightmare, and we haven't really just dumped our best player for picks.

Later all. Don't worry, I'll be back to wail and cry for months/years/decades to come.

Chiefs Pantalones · 04-23-2008, 12:22 AM

Is the QB class pretty good next year?

If not, we should take Ryan. Croyle isn't going to amount to nothing, IMO, but we'll see on Saturday how the Chiefs feel about that.

**J Diddy** · 04-23-2008, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Unless we add 2 probowl lineman before camp we're going to see at least 2 deep on the depth chart at QB anyway...

and that's an optimistic point of view

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-23-2008, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam

OMG what a circle jerk. Gholston won't be half the pro Allen is. Regardless it won't matter since he'll be gone before we draft.

Everytime you post something football related, I'm thankful for all the times you didn't.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-23-2008, 12:38 AM

Here's the way it is:

If Chris Williams is available at 17, we get the best pure pass blocking tackle in the draft. That's what LT's are designed to do. Even if we don't find another tackle in the draft (which is itself highly unlikely), we can move McIntosh to Rt. You don't need 5 HOF lineman to have a good offense. You people have such a hard-on for OL that it blinds you to the importance of other positions.

Say we get Williams at 17...we are set at both tackle positions. If the value is there in R2 for a guy like Carl Nicks or Cherilus we can take them and move McIntosh to guard. If not, we can still get a very very good DE, CB, or WR.

We have enough picks in the mid rounds that we can pluck interior lineman and Cover-2 style CBs. I don't think people understand that there is a very real possibility we could get 8 starters from this draft.

Do you know how huge that is??

Mecca · 04-23-2008, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

Is the QB class pretty good next year?

If not, we should take Ryan. Croyle isn't going to amount to nothing, IMO, but we'll see on Saturday how the Chiefs feel about that.

Next years QB class is kind of crappy.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-23-2008, 12:43 AM

Without reading through this thread (I know, my bad), the pictures of Gholston remind me of the pictures of Tank Tyler last year. Those pics showed a ripped Tyler and people were absolutely salivating at the prospect of getting him in the second round, if at all.

A season later and people were calling him a bust, even though he fell to the late third, which is absolutely ridiculous.

All I'm saying is that regardless of player lust and pictures, unless these choices turn out to be sure-fire, first year Pro-Bowl caliber players, people will be here bitching throughout next season and next off-season.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-23-2008, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Here's the way it is:

If Chris Williams is available at 17, we get the best pure pass blocking tackle in the draft. That's what LT's are designed to do. Even if we don't find another tackle in the draft (which is itself highly unlikely), we can move McIntosh to Rt. You don't need 5 HOF lineman to have a good offense. You people have such a hard-on for OL that it blinds you to the importance of other positions.

Say we get Williams at 17...we are set at both tackle positions. If the value is there in R2 for a guy like Carl Nicks or Cherilus we can take them and move McIntosh to guard. If not, we can still get a very very good DE, CB, or WR.

We have enough picks in the mid rounds that we can pluck interior lineman and Cover-2 style CBs. I don't think people understand that there is a very real possibility we could get 8 starters from this draft.

Do you know how huge that is??

If the Chiefs draft Ryan/Long/Gholston then Williams/Otah/Albert/Merling, the Baker/Cherilus/Brohm or any combo of the above, I'll be doing somersaults in my family room.

Even before the Allen trade, the 2008 NFL Draft was without a doubt, the most IMPORTANT draft in the history of the Chiefs.

Let's just ALL recite Shepard's Prayer before the beginning of the draft, with the Chiefs in mind.

**Rausch** · 04-23-2008, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

We have enough picks in the mid rounds that we can pluck interior lineman and Cover-2 style CBs. I don't think people understand that there is a very real possibility we could get 8 starters from this draft.

Do you know how huge that is??

You didn't get the memo?

We have to lose at least 11 games next year or the rebuild doesn't count.

Chiefs Pantalones · 04-23-2008, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Next years QB class is kind of crappy.

Hopefully the Chiefs have looked into that and take it into consideration. I don't want to be stuck with a crappy QB for two years because the draft class is shit. We should take Ryan now, IMO.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 04-23-2008, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

Hopefully the Chiefs have looked into that and take it into consideration. I don't want to be stuck with a crappy QB for two years because the draft class is shit. We should take Ryan now, IMO.

If Dorsey goes 2, then Ryan goes 3. I put the Flopnut stamp of approval on it.

Chiefs Pantalones · 04-23-2008, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Flopnuts

If Dorsey goes 2, then Ryan goes 3. I put the Flopnut stamp of approval on it.

Yeah I see that happening actually. Just hoping as all us Chiefs fans do.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 04-23-2008, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

Yeah I see that happening actually. Just hoping as all us Chiefs fans do.

Yeah. I'm praying to the sweet baby Jesus to let us get Dorsey.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-23-2008, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Without reading through this thread (I know, my bad), the pictures of Gholston remind me of the pictures of Tank Tyler last year. Those pics showed a ripped Tyler and people were absolutely salivating at the prospect of getting him in the second round, if at all.

A season later and people were calling him a bust, even though he fell to the late third, which is absolutely ridiculous.

All I'm saying is that regardless of player lust and pictures, unless these choices turn out to be sure-fire, first year Pro-Bowl caliber players, people will be here bitching throughout next season and next off-season.

Watch the video of him knocking the #1 overall pick, who outweighs him by close to 70 pounds, flat on his ass, and then we can talk about the "sexiness" of the pictures.

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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7919572	Here's the way it is: If Chris Williams is available at 17, we get the best pure pass blocking tackle in the draft. That's what LT's are designed to do. Even if we don't find another tackle in the draft (which is itself highly unlikely), we can move McIntosh to Rt. You don't need 5 HOF lineman to have a good offense. You people have such a hard-on for OL that it blinds you to the importance of other positions. Say we get Williams at 17...we are set at both tackle positions. If the value is there in R2 for a guy like Carl Nicks or Cherilus we can take them and move McIntosh to guard. If not, we can still get a very very good DE, CB, or WR. We have enough picks in the mid rounds that we can pluck interior lineman and Cover-2 style CBs. I don't think people understand that there is a very real possibility we could get 8 starters from this draft. Do you know how huge that is?? __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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