Chiefs Draft Reality Check - Page 3

KCJohnny · 04-27-2008, 12:42 PM

I'm thrilled with this year's draft as many of you are. However...

Reality check:

KC allowed 55 sacks last year (T-last)
KC rushed for 78 YPG last year (last).

I'm all excited about the DT, CBs, WR, RB, etc... but this was supposed to be the draft that addressed the OL.

Right now we are looking at just 4 starters: Albert, Waters, MacIntosh and Niswanger. No telling who will play what and there ain't crap there for depth.

Remember, Gailey will run a lot of 2-TE sets with downhill rushing plays. I'm not seeing the kind of top tier OL that can get that done here.

BigChiefFan · 04-27-2008, 01:14 PM

You have to look at it from the Chiefs perspective-they have holes EVERYWHERE, not just O-line, EVERYWHERE. We don't have the luxury of focusing on just a couple of positions to improve for the long-term. The Chiefs currently have McIntosh, Waters, Niswanger, Svitek, Wade Johnson, Adrian Jones, Alabi, Leffew, Rob Johnson, Herb Taylor, and now Branden Albert-all of them are OFFENSIVE LINEMAN.

Brock · 04-27-2008, 01:16 PM

How will we ever get back to 8-8 without some more mediocre linemen?

KCJohnny · 04-27-2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

You have to look at it from the Chiefs perspective-they have holes EVERYWHERE, not just O-line, EVERYWHERE. We don't have the luxury of focusing on just a couple of positions to improve for the long-term. The Chiefs currently have McIntosh, Waters, Niswanger, Svitek, Wade Johnson, Adrian Jones, Alabi, Leffew, Rob Johnson, Herb Taylor, and now Branden Albert-all of them are OFFENSIVE LINEMAN.

I guess I am anticipating Gailey's offense. I don't see it getting far beyond the current 14 PPG without significant improvement on the OL to include bench depth. Not having a franchise QB also puts lots of onus on the OL to dominate in the rushing attack. I know its a rebuiild year, but these issues will be talked about during the 2008 campaign.

BigChiefFan · 04-27-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

I guess I am anticipating Gailey's offense. I don't see it getting far beyond the current 14 PPG without significant improvement on the OL to include bench depth. Not having a franchise QB also puts lots of onus on the OL to dominate in the rushing attack. I know its a rebuiild year, but these issues will be talked about during the 2008 campaign.

My goodness, John. Did you actually think the team could magically become a playoff caliber team in one off-season after gutting the franchise?

KCJohnny · 04-27-2008, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

My goodness, John. Did you actually think the team could magically become a playoff caliber team in one off-season after gutting the franchise?

Of course not. I am just noticing there wasn't much attention paid to the sucking chest wound of this team. Dead last in sacks allowed and dead last in rushing YPG require OL attention. I'm not talking about winning the '08 SB, but dang, we need to get out of the #32 spot in these two critical areas.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-27-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Guess what the Chiefs are being smart, there are still some guys who will start left..

A couple of my personal faves are Barry Richardson and Brandon Keith.

BAM!

markk · 04-27-2008, 01:26 PM

richardson is a great pick. i didnt think of him during the draft but now i wonder why he was still available

BigChiefFan · 04-27-2008, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

Of course not. I am just noticing there wasn't much attention paid to the sucking chest wound of this team. Dead last in sacks allowed and dead last in rushing YPG require OL attention. I'm not talking about winning the '08 SB, but dang, we need to get out of the #32 spot in these two critical areas.

McIntosh, Waters, Niswanger, Svitek, Wade Johnson, Adrian Jones, Alabi, Leffew, Rob Johnson, Herb Taylor, and now Branden Albert.

How exactly is that ignoring the position? Maybe the Chiefs actually don't think some of the draftees are as good as whose on our roster. We aren't going to be very good next year, we'll add more O-lineman next year and maybe even later in the draft. Right now the word of the day is VALUE.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-27-2008, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

McIntosh, Waters, Niswanger, Svitek, Wade Johnson, Adrian Jones, Alabi, Leffew, Rob Johnson, Herb Taylor, and now Branden Albert.

How exactly is that ignoring the position? Maybe the Chiefs actually don't think some of the draftees are as good as whose on our roster. We aren't going to be very good next year, we'll add more O-lineman next year and maybe even later in the draft. Right now the word of the day is VALUE.

To these guys, they are ignoring the position because none of them are "name" guys.

They've never heard of them, so they just assume they suck.

The Richardson pick here in the 6th is another great pick, and will compete for a spot at RT or RG.

KCJohnny · 04-27-2008, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

McIntosh, Waters, Niswanger, Svitek, Wade Johnson, Adrian Jones, Alabi, Leffew, Rob Johnson, Herb Taylor, and now Branden Albert.

How exactly is that ignoring the position? Maybe the Chiefs actually don't think some of the draftees are as good as whose on our roster. We aren't going to be very good next year, we'll add more O-lineman next year and maybe even later in the draft. Right now the word of the day is VALUE.

Fair enuff. Most of those guys are camp fodder. The OL is bound to get better for 3 reasons.

1. You can't lower than #32.
2. Gailey knows O better than Solari.
3. They'll have to fight Glen Dorsey in practice every week.

Brock · 04-27-2008, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

To these guys, they are ignoring the position because none of them are "name" guys.

They've never heard of them, so they just assume they suck.

The Richardson pick here in the 6th is another great pick, and will compete for a spot at RT.

Yeah, anytime you bring them up, they're "camp fodder, because I never heard of him, even though I don't watch college football".

Gravedigger · 04-27-2008, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

I'm thrilled with this year's draft as many of you are. However...

Reality check:

KC allowed 55 sacks last year (T-last)
KC rushed for 78 YPG last year (last).

I'm all excited about the DT, CBs, WR, RB, etc... but this was supposed to be the draft that addressed the OL.

Right now we are looking at just 4 starters: Albert, Waters, MacIntosh and Niswanger. No telling who will play what and there ain't crap there for depth.

Remember, Gailey will run a lot of 2-TE sets with downhill rushing plays. I'm not seeing the kind of top tier OL that can get that done here.

IMO bring better stats than what ESPN has been spamming in the bar for the last 2 days under the KC tab.

**BigMeatballDave** · 04-27-2008, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Jesus Christ....

I knew I should have stayed away from this place today.

No shit. When did rebuilding only last one freaking season?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-27-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

No shit. When did rebuilding only last one freaking season?

Uh, never.

But God knows the fan base is in a mad rush to get back to 8- as soon as possible, value for picks and getting BPA's be damned.

B_Ambuehl · 04-27-2008, 03:39 PM

Consistently taking the best athlete available is how you end up like the oakland raiders.

Teams that are consistently at the top (new england, pittsburgh etc.) draft for quality across the board rather than a few superstars.

04-27-2008, 12:42 PM
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04-27-2008, 03:39 PM	#45
B_Ambuehl Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Casino cash: $9805405	Consistently taking the best athlete available is how you end up like the oakland raiders. Teams that are consistently at the top (new england, pittsburgh etc.) draft for quality across the board rather than a few superstars. __________________ Who's decision was it to fire Romeo" - Coleman C Hunt: "It was my decision but it was one that Scott agreed with" LOL
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