Croyle better have a good game in Miami

[Wile_E_Coyote]

...because I see nothing

[rad]

Croyle needs to get a motorcycle. Then it will all come together.

[Smed1065]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

We don't need a superstar.

In Herm's perfect world, we need a quarterback that compliments the running game and doesn't make turnovers.

Look at Eli Manning and his career stats and tell me 1) he looked like a QB that could make it after his rookie season, and 2) how he won a SB last year.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

I'd take my chances at competing to win Super Bowls with guys like Favre, or Manning, or Brady. I'd take my chances at winning ONLY playoff games, and that's it, with guys like Grbac, DeBerg, etc.

Game managers don't win Super Bowls. Eli Manning is not a game manager either, I don't care what people say.

Funny thing is, Manning had some really bad games in the playoffs on the way to his SB win, and Favre had two big plays and did little else in his SB win.

[KcMizzou]

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

I'd take my chances at competing to win Super Bowls with guys like Favre, or Manning, or Brady. I'd take my chances at winning ONLY playoff games, and that's it, with guys like Grbac, DeBerg, etc.

Game managers don't win Super Bowls. Eli Manning is not a game manager either, I don't care what people say.

Vanilla Thunder only rolls with the Big Dogs, yo.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

I'd take my chances at competing to win Super Bowls with guys like Favre, or Manning, or Brady. I'd take my chances at winning ONLY playoff games, and that's it, with guys like Grbac, DeBerg, etc.

Game managers don't win Super Bowls. Eli Manning is not a game manager either, I don't care what people say.

I'm not saying you're right or wrong, just what I believe the team is looking for in their starting QB right now. And I'm not even saying that's what Croyle is, because he could potentially be more. He's not been great statistically, but he's clearly a different QB than a year ago. This isn't the guy who was throwing head-scratching panic picks. If he and Bowe have really developed a connection this offseason, he could poised for a bigger year than people expect. And he could be swirling around the bowl. It's hard to tell at this point, when you only get 1-2 quarters of play. Next week is the game to watch, when they'll (I'm assuming) gameplan for Miami, and play the starters into the 3rd quarter. As far as gauging where your starting unit is, the 3rd preseason game is really the only one where you can even try to do it...

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by milkman

Funny thing is, Manning had some really bad games in the playoffs on the way to his SB win, and Favre had two big plays and did little else in his SB win.

Give me the franchise QB over the DeBerg's and Grbac's of the NFL.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Vanilla Thunder only rolls with the Big Dogs, yo.

We all shoot high, obviously the Chiefs don't. lol

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I'm not saying you're right or wrong, just what I believe the team is looking for in their starting QB right now. And I'm not even saying that's what Croyle is, because he could potentially be more. He's not been great statistically, but he's clearly a different QB than a year ago. This isn't the guy who was throwing head-scratching panic picks. If he and Bowe have really developed a connection this offseason, he could poised for a bigger year than people expect. And he could be swirling around the bowl. It's hard to tell at this point, when you only get 1-2 quarters of play. Next week is the game to watch, when they'll (I'm assuming) gameplan for Miami, and play the starters into the 3rd quarter. As far as gauging where your starting unit is, the 3rd preseason game is really the only one where you can even try to do it...

Ah I see. Yeah this next game should be interesting. Hopefully Dorsey is healthiER haha, and Charles plays. Man I wish Albert was getting reps.

[KcMizzou]

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

We all shoot high, obviously the Chiefs don't. lol

The thing is, you just cant go out and get one of those guys. WTF do you want them to do?

The last one was Peyton Manning, I guess. I'd like to see the Chiefs get a guy like that too.

Fact is, it's not that easy.

[PastorMikH]

We will NEVER develop a top-tiered QB until the fans and organization learn to be patient and give a guy some time to develop.


Maybe Croyle makes it, maybe he doesn't. But if he doesn't here, I'd like to make sure he doesn't have what it takes rather than see him sign for someone like Denver and light us up for the 10 years.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

I'd take my chances at competing to win Super Bowls with guys like Favre, or Manning, or Brady. I'd take my chances at winning ONLY playoff games, and that's it, with guys like Grbac, DeBerg, etc.

Game managers don't win Super Bowls. Eli Manning is not a game manager either, I don't care what people say.

It seems 50/50 these days... the Peyton Manning and Tom Brady have rings, and Rex Grossman, Trent Dilfer, and Eli Manning have rings.... and guys in between like Roethlisberger, Hasselback, and Delhomme have at least made it there.

I agree with keg, we don't need what some people here are looking for. If Herm has his way, we won't even need someone as good as Eli Manning, and he's not all that good.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by KcMizzou

The thing is, you just cant go out and get one of those guys. WTF do you want them to do?

The last one was Peyton Manning, I guess. I'd like to see the Chiefs get a guy like that too.

Fact is, it's not that easy.

I know it's not that easy. The Chiefs just don't have a plan. Well, they do now, but I don't know many people that think it'll work. We'll see.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by KcMizzou

The thing is, you just cant go out and get one of those guys. WTF do you want them to do?

The last one was Peyton Manning, I guess. I'd like to see the Chiefs get a guy like that too.

Fact is, it's not that easy.

Exactly.

Even the guys ppaid to make these decisions get it wrong at least as often as they get it right.
Probably more.

As to Favre, I'd bet that he's cost his team as many winning opportunities with boneheaded passes as he won them games late with great plays.

[KcMizzou]

Originally Posted by PastorMikH

We will NEVER develop a top-tiered QB until the fans and organization learn to be patient and give a guy some time to develop.

Exactly.

I say, stick with Brodie, and build the team around him... if he flames out... and it's clear that he's the problem... we should be drafting high enough to get the next QB that'll get Vanilla Thunder's panties wet.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

It seems 50/50 these days... the Peyton Manning and Tom Brady have rings, and Rex Grossman, Trent Dilfer, and Eli Manning have rings.... and guys in between like Roethlisberger, Hasselback, and Delhomme have at least made it there.

I agree with keg, we don't need what some people here are looking for. If Herm has his way, we won't even need someone as good as Eli Manning, and he's not all that good.

Grossman doesn't have a ring.

And the guys that are the shit like Brady, Roethlisberger and the Mannings, have rings. Those guys beat the game managers that play against them in the big game more often than not. The plan is to make it to the Super Bowl and win it. To do that you need the guys that are the shit. IMO.