Chiefs This has gone beyond "rebuilding" - Page 2

**petegz28** · 10-05-2008, 08:18 PM

After Sunday's drubbing at the hands of the Panthers, the Chiefs are faced with some cold hard realities. They are going backwards. They have gone so far backwards that they have taken this team to the lowest in it's history.

It is more than obvious Herm has no ****ing clue of how to coach a football team and win. I seriously think that our practices are giant excuse making parties.

Not 1 part of this team has improved from the time Herm has arrived. Not 1. The defense showed promise last year only to take 3 steps back this year.

And Carl is not without blame in all of this. He knew the situation that would be created with our D line when we traded Allen. So from the draft on we didn't make any effort to sign a DE worth a shit. Instead we got suckered into another one of his bullshit schemes where we move the LE to the RE and the DT to DE and pretend it will all work. MLB was not addressed and our O line was improved by 1 player only.

Instead this team wasted time with the likes of BJ Samms ala Eddie Drummond, Devard Darling ala Gardner and still have yet to sign a kicker worth a shit since Stoyo.

It will suck when the blackouts hit. I can't remember a blackout since the Deberg days.

xbarretx · 10-05-2008, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

We all know that what happened today and against Atlanta and against Oakland is going to happen a lot this season. That's why I find it humorous when people get all angry about it. It's not like it's unexpected.

b/c were still not set (as current things stand) at QB and passing is Herms antimatter. if he even thinks about it he instantly bursts into flames.

hell i would rather us throw it deep and rack up the ints instead of the lack of gameplan that we witness every week. say what you will but if were going to lose lets at LEAST have a young guy at QB.... that way we at least have a reasonable excuse for getting whipped. telling everyone the net YPC from LJ jsut gets us laughed at and moved into the corned with a dunce hat...

chiefs1111 · 10-05-2008, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

We all know that what happened today and against Atlanta and against Oakland is going to happen a lot this season. That's why I find it humorous when people get all angry about it. It's not like it's unexpected.

i knew it would be bad but we looks worse than a high school JV team........

chiefs1111 · 10-05-2008, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

We all know that what happened today and against Atlanta and against Oakland is going to happen a lot this season. That's why I find it humorous when people get all angry about it. It's not like it's unexpected.

By the way good to see our Gators win this weekend against the Arkansas...... Though then again we should have anyways

Deberg_1990 · 10-05-2008, 08:50 PM

Rebuilding starts and ends with a QB. Im still in shock the Chiefs went into this season relying completely on Brodie Croyle. An Epic fail.

chiefs1111 · 10-05-2008, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Rebuilding starts and ends with a QB. Im still in shock the Chiefs went into this season relying completely on Brodie Croyle. An Epic fail.

Im not shocked,remember Herm Edwards is dumb............

**morphius** · 10-05-2008, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

We all know that what happened today and against Atlanta and against Oakland is going to happen a lot this season. That's why I find it humorous when people get all angry about it. It's not like it's unexpected.

I'm not angry, I'm well into acceptance mode here.

Basileus777 · 10-05-2008, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

We all know that what happened today and against Atlanta and against Oakland is going to happen a lot this season. That's why I find it humorous when people get all angry about it. It's not like it's unexpected.

Agreed. Its even worse when people try to paint it as if we are the worst NFL team in years and are uniquely bad. The truth is that there are teams every year just as bad as us and that we aren't even the worst team in the league right now. Everyone knew we were going to suck, everyone wants Carl gone, and practically everyone wants a new coaching staff. There is no need to go overboard.

smittysbar · 10-05-2008, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

We all know that what happened today and against Atlanta and against Oakland is going to happen a lot this season. That's why I find it humorous when people get all angry about it. It's not like it's unexpected.

I thought it would be bad, and wanted Herm gone, but did you really think it would be this bad?

xbarretx · 10-05-2008, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by morphius

I'm not angry, I'm well into acceptance mode here.

given that i know where you work i would say thats in the both of our veins atm.......

chiefs1111 · 10-05-2008, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by smittysbar

I thought it would be bad, and wanted Herm gone, but did you really think it would be this bad?

Not this bad no..... I mean we don't even look like an NFL team at this point

ClevelandBronco · 10-05-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

...And Carl is not without blame in all of this. He knew the situation that would be created with our D line when we traded Allen...

I'm betting that Carl wasn't keyed in enough to understand this.

**The Bad Guy** · 10-05-2008, 08:59 PM

This goes well beyond Jared Allen.

But what I really don't understand is why would they ever trade a young stud end when they were rebuilding?

Robbing Peter to pay Paul never is a good idea.

FAX · 10-05-2008, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777

Agreed. Its even worse when people try to paint it as if we are the worst NFL team in years and are uniquely bad. The truth is that there are teams every year just as bad as us and that we aren't even the worst team in the league right now. Everyone knew we were going to suck, everyone wants Carl gone, and practically everyone wants a new coaching staff. There is no need to go overboard.

Wise words, Mr. Basileus777. To me, it isn't the fact that we "suck". It's "how we suck" that's bothersome sometimes.

I just want to see consistent, overall improvement in the play at key positions (CB, DL, WR, whatever) and I want to see the guys fight hard until the last whistle. As long as that happens, I'm okay.

Oh, and I'd like to see the coaches stop impeding the development of the players by calling games like they're pulling plays out the ass of a mushroom addict they picked up off the street outside the stadium.

FAX

Basileus777 · 10-05-2008, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

This goes well beyond Jared Allen.

But what I really don't understand is why would they ever trade a young stud end when they were rebuilding?

Robbing Peter to pay Paul never is a good idea.

The jury is still out on the Allen trade. It all depends on how Albert develops. If he ends up our LT of the future, then it was well worth it.

chiefs1111 · 10-05-2008, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

This goes well beyond Jared Allen.

But what I really don't understand is why would they ever trade a young stud end when they were rebuilding?

Robbing Peter to pay Paul never is a good idea.

I think their excuse was something about his ,well he is one more DUI from a year suspension... That being said I like the guys we got from the draft picks we acquired for Allen..

10-05-2008, 08:18 PM
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-895873	This has gone beyond "rebuilding" After Sunday's drubbing at the hands of the Panthers, the Chiefs are faced with some cold hard realities. They are going backwards. They have gone so far backwards that they have taken this team to the lowest in it's history. It is more than obvious Herm has no ****ing clue of how to coach a football team and win. I seriously think that our practices are giant excuse making parties. Not 1 part of this team has improved from the time Herm has arrived. Not 1. The defense showed promise last year only to take 3 steps back this year. And Carl is not without blame in all of this. He knew the situation that would be created with our D line when we traded Allen. So from the draft on we didn't make any effort to sign a DE worth a shit. Instead we got suckered into another one of his bullshit schemes where we move the LE to the RE and the DT to DE and pretend it will all work. MLB was not addressed and our O line was improved by 1 player only. Instead this team wasted time with the likes of BJ Samms ala Eddie Drummond, Devard Darling ala Gardner and still have yet to sign a kicker worth a shit since Stoyo. It will suck when the blackouts hit. I can't remember a blackout since the Deberg days.
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10-05-2008, 08:50 PM	#19
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $314454	Rebuilding starts and ends with a QB. Im still in shock the Chiefs went into this season relying completely on Brodie Croyle. An Epic fail. __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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10-05-2008, 08:59 PM	#27
The Bad Guy Scott Pioli Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Copacobana Casino cash: $9283645	This goes well beyond Jared Allen. But what I really don't understand is why would they ever trade a young stud end when they were rebuilding? Robbing Peter to pay Paul never is a good idea. __________________
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