Portis says with Pacman situation blown out of proportion

[Deberg_1990]

hahah

Wasnt this the guy who Sympathized with Vick too?

"I really think that situation man probably was blown out of proportion, I really do," Portis said of the Pacman fight. "And I think it might have just been somebody watching and seen the altercation and it wasn't nothing that couldn't be handled amongst men, you know? Bodyguard or no bodyguard, if you're around somebody constantly, tempers gonna flare. As men you exchange words. ...

"And I think with Pacman, to come back, to really have this opportunity was a golden opportunity for him, and all of the sudden it's been taken away by the outside world. And now you're under such a tight microscope that you can't fall, or you can't have a disagreement with a grown man. You know, I could see if it was pistol play or if he strangled him or choked him out while he was driving, but you know, if it's man-to-man and we bump chests and push each other, you know, I don't think that's an altercation worth taking football away from him. But, you know, wrong place wrong time is all I can say."


http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcs...pacman_su.html

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by StcChief

so the body guards can't keep him on the straight and narrow.... hmmm

Sounds like the Cowgirls have real issues and apparently they were NOT real clear with him on what he could/could not do....

The court determines the terms of his probation, not the Cowboys. And how is a bodyguard suppossed to keep a grown man from drinking except to physically stop them, like maybe a fight?

There is mention of Jones and aclohol consumption on the police report.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by rolstrol

Or maybe it was a easy choice considering that a Grade A corner is > than a grade A RB? Especially in a system that continues to make runners look better than they appear.

Are you familiar with the circumstances that led to Shanny getting rid of Portis? They involve embarassing acts such as wearing a title belt on the sidelines and Portis trying to strong-arm Shanny into giving him a new contract.
Shanny is coach lord and master and Portis found out who stays and who goes real quick.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

The court determines the terms of his probation, not the Cowboys. And how is a bodyguard suppossed to keep a grown man from drinking except to physically stop them, like maybe a fight?

There is mention of Jones and aclohol consumption on the police report.

Wrong.
Goodell determines the terms of his NFL probation. Playing in the NFL is a privelege and PacMan agrees to comply with the terms set forth by the league in exchange for the privelege of membership.

The grown man is supposed to keep himself from drinking. The bodyguards are there to save him from himself when possible and to shield him from the media and public eye when he ****s up.

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

The court determines the terms of his probation, not the Cowboys.

You just made my point for me.

If Goodell's going to defer to the terms of his probation...
Jones should only be suspended AFTER his PO determines that he's violated his probation.

There is mention of Jones and aclohol consumption on the police report.

Police only speculated as to whether or not alcohol was involved.

I just looked at the report and saw nothing at all about alcohol being involved.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Micjones

You just made my point for me.

If Goodell's going to defer to the terms of his probation...
Jones should only be suspended AFTER his PO determines that he's violated his probation.



Police only speculated as to whether or not alcohol was involved.

I just looked at the report and saw nothing at all about alcohol being involved.

Goodell is not bound by nor does he follow the criminal courts when deciding on an action concerning an employee of the NFL.
Nobody needs to prove PacMan was drinking. If the appearance of impropriety is a condition upon which the NFL chooses to act then it is free to do so. In the case of moral terpitude, etc. the NFL is free to act.

The comish sets his own terms and conditions and metes out his own justice. This is how it goes when you accept money from someone in exchange for services rendered: you are expected to live up to the terms to which you agree.

Where do you people come up with this "oh if the police and courts can't prove he broke a law his employer can't take action"?

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by Micjones

You just made my point for me.

If Goodell's going to defer to the terms of his probation...
Jones should only be suspended AFTER his PO determines that he's violated his probation.



Police only speculated as to whether or not alcohol was involved.

I just looked at the report and saw nothing at all about alcohol being involved.

Jones was suspended 4 games for violating league conduct. A looming suspension will be determined if he violated part of his 3 year probation deal in GA, which is directly linked to Goodell's condition of reinstatement.

[Chief Faithful]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I think i know what your getting at.

Why was the Matt Jones cocaine incident put on page 12 of the sports section??

I will agree that the media tends to blow things up when its a black athlete. UNfortunately, thats how the media operates these days. Especially when its a huge "Lightening Rod" like Pacman.

Are you suggesting Pacman is being mistreated because of color?

[Fairplay]

Originally Posted by Micjones

But has it been determined that he did in fact violate his probation?

Hey Johnnie Cochran.

Get over it. Pacman screwed up. Where do they get these stupid nick names anyway.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Someones gotta say it. I'm not racist either.........theres a true difference between being black and being thugged out n*****

The guy comes out of the ghetto and its one of those instances where you can take Pacman out of the hood.......but you cant take the hood out of pacman.

Chris Rock, on n's vs. black people:

"By the way, I've never done that joke again, ever, and I probably never will. 'Cause some people that were racist thought they had license to say ****er. So, I'm done with that routine."

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by Chief Faithful

Are you suggesting Pacman is being mistreated because of color?

I think you mean IQ..

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by vailpass

Goodell is not bound by nor does he follow the criminal courts when deciding on an action concerning an employee of the NFL.

I'm fine with that, but if that's the case that should never have been a condition of his reinstatement. Deferring to the terms of his probation and then suspending him before it's been determined that he did violate his probation is unfair.

Nobody needs to prove PacMan was drinking. If the appearance of impropriety is a condition upon which the NFL chooses to act then it is free to do so. In the case of moral terpitude, etc. the NFL is free to act.

Was that a condition of his reinstatement? I'm scouring the web and all I've come up with is that the reinstatement stipulated he had to comply with the terms of his three year court-issued probation.

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by Fairplay

Hey Johnnie Cochran.

Get over it. Pacman screwed up. Where do they get these stupid nick names anyway.

Another eloquent post.

Say, why don't you leave the heavy thinking to the other posters?
You never contribute anything.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

CoMo,

FWIW, you can call Pacman a scumbag, a ****tard, a misanthrope. You can do what I did and use hyperbole to say that he should be drawn and quartered on the Texas Star, but it never ceases to amaze me how many people will use the distance of the Internet as well as transgressions like this to blurt out "n*****". Why don't you go down to the Field House and say that the next time you see someone who looks "ghetto"?

[Fairplay]

Originally Posted by Micjones

Another eloquent post.

Say, why don't you leave the heavy thinking to the other posters?
You never contribute anything.

You act like you are so smart on here.

Your just another dumb ******

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Micjones

I'm fine with that, but if that's the case that should never have been a condition of his reinstatement. Deferring to the terms of his probation and then suspending him before it's been determined that he did violate his probation is unfair.



Was that a condition of his reinstatement? I'm scouring the web and all I've come up with is that the reinstatement stipulated he had to comply with the terms of his three year court-issued probation.

I'm speculating here, apologies if I didn't make that clear.

I don't know if there were specific terms or if there was a blanket warning to the tune of "should it become public that you committed any actions to the detriment of the image of the NFL your reinstatement will be reconsidered"

Goodell is fully empowered and feeling it. He may be taking the SCOTUS definition of pornography on what is a suspendable offense.