Herb Taylor will start next season. But where?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Taylor's really not suited for right tackle.

He's only 6'3 and is more of a finesse blocker. The right tackle should be a road grader.

I agree that Taylor has too much talent to be wasting on the bench but with his body and height, he'd be perfect at center.

This is the umpteenth time I've seen this suggested, yet no one wants to answer my question:

What, other than wishful thinking, makes you think that Taylor could play center? Did he play center at TCU and I've missed it?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

This is the umpteenth time I've seen this suggested, yet no one wants to answer my question:

What, other than wishful thinking, makes you think that Taylor could play center? Did he play center at TCU and I've missed it?

He's smart, talented and his body style suits the position of center.

He's better suited at center than right guard (due to his height).

The guy needs to be on the field.

Just not at right tackle.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

He's smart, talented and his body style suits the position of center.

He's better suited at center than right guard (due to his height).

The guys needs to be on the field. Just not at right tackle.

So, your answer is "wishful thinking."

While I appreciate your optimism that a guy can just learn a completely new position, it's highly unlikely that:

a) The Chiefs would even consider it.

b) That if they did, he'd be successful.



If the kid is as limited physically as some of you claim he is, I'm starting to wonder why the **** we even bothered to draft the kid.

Can't play RT, can't play RG.

Yet we drafted him to do just that, play RT. And he's riding pine behind a goddamn turnstile.

So, who's right?

The guys on a football message board, or the guys that do this for a ****ing living?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

So, your answer is "wishful thinking."

While I appreciate your optimism that a guy can just learn a completely new position, it's highly unlikely that:

a) The Chiefs would even consider it.

b) That if they did, he'd be successful.



If the kid is as limited physically as some of you claim he is, I'm starting to wonder why the **** we even bothered to draft the kid.

Can't play RT, can't play RG.

Yet we drafted him to do just that, play RT. And he's riding pine behind a goddamn turnstile.

So, who's right?

The guys on a football message board, or the guys that do this for a ****ing living?

Jeez, calm down.

He was 6th round pick. It wasn't like he was chosen in the first or second round. And let's not pretend that athletic players like Herb Taylor can't be moved around the offensive line.

Brian Waters was a tight end and a center before moving to left guard. Niswanger's played every position along the offensive line.

Taylor's an athletic guy and the Chiefs SHOULD find a place for him to start. It's obvious that won't be a left tackle or left guard (in the near future). He's not ideally suited for right tackle.

What would you suggest?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Jeez, calm down.

He was 6th round pick. It wasn't like he was chosen in the first or second round. And let's not pretend that athletic players like Herb Taylor can't be moved around the offensive line.

Brian Waters was a tight end and a center before moving to left guard. Niswanger's played every position along the offensive line.

Taylor's an athletic guy and the Chiefs SHOULD find a place for him to start. It's obvious that won't be a left tackle or left guard (in the near future). He's not ideally suited for right tackle.

What would you suggest?

In all honesty, I think it's really impossible to tell at this point.

As a fan, it seems ridiculous that he's riding pine behind McIntosh at RT, and is THIRD on the depth chart at RG behind Jones/Smith.

Which leads to the coaches perspective.

Do the coaches honestly think he's not good enough to start, and the fans are dead wrong - or are the coaches incompetent, and a kid with serious potential is not getting the work he deserves?

Situations like this one, as well as the Page/Pollard/Morgan situation, are just one of the many reasons I want to see an entirely new coaching staff in here, ASAP.

As a fan, I WANT to believe that Taylor is our 3rd best OLman. I WANT to believe that Morgan is better, even as a rookie, than Pollard or Page. I WANT to believe that with better coaching, we actually have some talent on our front four.

But it's going to take another coaching staff for me to pass judgment on most of these guys.

At this point, it is all but impossible to determine what we have based on who the coaches are, IMO.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

In all honesty, I think it's really impossible to tell at this point.

As a fan, it seems ridiculous that he's riding pine behind McIntosh at RT, and is THIRD on the depth chart at RG behind Jones/Smith.

Which leads to the coaches perspective.

Do the coaches honestly think he's not good enough to start, and the fans are dead wrong - or are the coaches incompetent, and a kid with serious potential is not getting the work he deserves?

Situations like this one, as well as the Page/Pollard/Morgan situation, are just one of the many reasons I want to see an entirely new coaching staff in here, ASAP.

As a fan, I WANT to believe that Taylor is our 3rd best OLman. I WANT to believe that Morgan is better, even as a rookie, than Pollard or Page. I WANT to believe that with better coaching, we actually have some talent on our front four.

But it's going to take another coaching staff for me to pass judgment on most of these guys.

At this point, it is all but impossible to determine what we have based on who the coaches are, IMO.

Morgan's dealt with injuries this year so it's difficult to say whether or not he'd be an improvement at this point in time. With the ascension of the rookie cornerbacks (Leggett, Carr & Flowers), I'm holding off on judgment of David Gibbs because it appears that they are all improving from week to week.

That tells me three things:

1) Gibbs is an adequate coach.
2) The talent at cornerback is greater than at any time this decade.
3) Pollard and Page have plateaued.

Personally, I feel that the Chiefs haven't evaluated their offensive line talent properly. Niswanger showed great promise at right guard last year before injury. In an effort to get him on the field, they moved him to center. Herb Taylor is a much better left tackle than they anticipated. Good enough to have gone a different direction at pick 15? Hard to say. But he has enough talent to be starting at left tackle, left guard or center, IMO. He'd be a short term solution at right guard or right tackle, not long term.

Again, this is just my opinion of the line play, to which I pay very close attention.