Thigpen isn't good enough.

[Hammock Parties]

Thigpen just isn't good enough. He disappeared for an entire half. Our downfield passing game was terrible today. Thigpen's running was more impressive than his passing.

And of course his endgame was terrible. A five-yard run and a 10-yard dumpoff to Gonzalez? Pathetic.

We need a new quarterback.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by suds79

Again people are calling him a rookie. He's not one.

So I'll rephrase. It was a 2nd year QB mistake.

Hate to be such a stickler but it really bugs me that people insist on calling him a rookie.... It's a lot easier to swallow the bonehead plays when they're "rookies" right?

He's a 2nd year player of which you certainly expect more from than rookies.

Oh, I am sorry...he is a practice squad\3rd string QB that threw all of 6 passes in 1 game last year.

Clearly he is a seasoned veteran.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by Mecca

It's called lacking awareness.

Its called being young. All Qb's make mistakes like that. I think his awareness is fine, this should all change as he gets more play time and later into his career.

[luv]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

He made a mistake, but playing when the game is that fast, he may have seen a opening that he could have ran for big yardage to get into field goal range. We dont know what he was thinking at the time, but it wasnt a good choice to make because it backfired, but we go tinto field goal range anyways.


Thigpen is going to make more mistakes, thats what young QB's do. The way to fix it is to keep playing and usually around their midway to their 2nd and 3rd seasons the game really starts to slow down for them.

That's why I would love to see him get more practice and reps in training camp. He did what he needed to do in order to get the clocked stopped, though, so that's good.

I'd agree on getting it into FG range, but we also got help from a penalty on the SD D.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Mecca

If college QB's do that people call them stupid...that is just something you should know, it should be ingrained in your head from the time you are in high school you don't run with the ball with less 2 minutes and no timeouts.

Well there is your problem, he didn't play in HS. Well not until his sr year I believe.


And his running the ball did aid in us getting closer to a FG. Had he thrown it awa we would of saved what, 5 secs and gained no yards? The clock running between the plays is the bad part of it, but all things considered it really lent itself to helping us at the end. Though I agree with your general point.

[suds79]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

He's a 2nd year playing with no real gametime until this year. Hell, the rookies that started from the get go this year have more experience then he did becuase he has always been a 3rd qb playing with the scrubs.

True. His gametime experience is little to none. No argument there.

But being in the game and learning the speed and type of play in the NFL certainly means something.

If you had a 5 year vet with no gametime experience to come off the bench, you'd expect more from him than if he was a rookie with no gametime experience right? Sure you would.

Same rule applies to Thigpen. Now is the difference smaller being only his 2nd year? You bet. But it's still different from being a rookie.

I just wish people would call him what he is. A 2nd year QB. That's all I'm saying.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Mecca

It's called lacking awareness.

It's called playing in your first game where you were out of TO's and had 36 secs to score.

[Coach]

Of course, another thing to keep in mind was Herm's ability to waste two timeouts as well in the 3rd/4th quarter, IIRC.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by suds79

True. His gametime experience is little to none. No argument there.

But being in the game and learning the speed and type of play in the NFL certainly means something.

If you had a 5 year vet with no gametime experience to come off the bench, you'd expect more from him than if he was a rookie with no gametime experience right? Sure you would.

Same rule applies to Thigpen. Now is the difference smaller being only his 2nd year? You bet. But it's still different from being a rookie.

I just wish people would call him what he is. A 2nd year QB. That's all I'm saying.

No. I would expect him to play like someone who never played in a real game. Thigpen threw a total of 6 passes last year and now is not even in the same offense we had last year.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by luv

That's why I would love to see him get more practice and reps in training camp. He did what he needed to do in order to get the clocked stopped, though, so that's good.

I'd agree on getting it into FG range, but we also got help from a penalty on the SD D.

That kick from barth would have been good from about 58 yards. He nailed it, he just hooked it.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Coach

Of course, another thing to keep in mind was Herm's ability to waste two timeouts as well in the 3rd/4th quarter, IIRC.

I can't fault him there. We should not of needed them.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by suds79

True. His gametime experience is little to none. No argument there.

But being in the game and learning the speed and type of play in the NFL certainly means something.

If you had a 5 year vet with no gametime experience to come off the bench, you'd expect more from him than if he was a rookie with no gametime experience right? Sure you would.

Same rule applies to Thigpen. Now is the difference smaller being only his 2nd year? You bet. But it's still different from being a rookie.

I just wish people would call him what he is. A 2nd year QB. That's all I'm saying.

I don't have a problem calling him a 2nd year QB. That's true. But I also want everybody to recongize that Tyler has played less than 16 games in his career. Therefore, 16 games = 1 year of experience of playing time.

[luv]

Originally Posted by Coach

Of course, another thing to keep in mind was Herm's ability to waste two timeouts as well in the 3rd/4th quarter, IIRC.

While I do think it was kind of a close call, I didn't think it needed to be questioned in that scenario. (Referring to forward pass beyond LOS).

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

That kick from barth would have been good from about 58 yards. He nailed it, he just hooked it.

He hooked both kicks. Not sure if he was trying to compensate for the wind or not?

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by Coach

Of course, another thing to keep in mind was Herm's ability to waste two timeouts as well in the 3rd/4th quarter, IIRC.

What one? he had to challenge 1 of the plays becuase it could have turned the other way. It was a big call. Just didnt work out. The other time out was becuase Thigpen used it.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by petegz28

He hooked both kicks. Not sure if he was trying to compensate for the wind or not?

He probably did, but he nailed it. It just didnt happen. First one he should have hit, no doubt about it, but the 50 yarder in the wind and in the cold, i cant blame him for.