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SAN ANTONIO | When it was over, when the 12-point-favorite, former-national-title-contending Missouri Tigers finally subdued Northwestern in overtime, the Tigers danced across the Alamodome as if they’d beaten Kansas or won the Big 12 title.

When he was handed the microphone at the Alamo Bowl trophy ceremony, Gary Pinkel shrieked: “How ’bout dem Tigers?!?”

I wondered what game I’d just watched.

The one I watched was an embarrassment for the Tigers. An inferior opponent had outplayed them for most of the night, settled for a moral victory in the fourth quarter and gave up in overtime.

Congrats, Mizzou. Beating Northwestern 30-23 in overtime inside a half-empty stadium at the conclusion of a season that started with national-title hopes is now the signature moment at the end of the Chase Daniel-Dave Christensen-Spread Offense era.

I’m sorry to rain on the parade scheduled for Columbia today to celebrate the 10-4 Tigers. But I expected more. Coming off losses to Kansas and Oklahoma, I expected Daniel and Christensen to exit Missouri and the Alamodome amid fireworks they sparked.

Instead, while the Tigers were wildly celebrating their “big” victory, the Northwestern Wildcats were at the losers’ postgame news conference claiming a moral victory. Coach Pat Fitzgerald talked about how no one expected the Wildcats to be competitive in this game and how much they proved by taking Missouri into the fourth quarter.

Northwestern proved Missouri is a fraud. The Tigers’ over-the-top celebration let us know that they know they’ve been overrated and overhyped, benefactors of Bill Snyder, cupcake scheduling.

Yeah, they cooed about averaging 10 victories during the Daniel-Christensen era. Uh, 10 victories is like 1,000 yards in the NFL. It used to mean something when the NFL season was 12 and 14 games. Ten victories used to mean a lot before teams started scheduling four nonconference victories.

The Tigers have mastered the art of beating weak teams and sneaking past decent ones. We’ll call the Wildcats decent.

What should we call the Missouri Tigers?

I’m not sure. It’s all pretty much under review now — the Daniel-Christensen-Spread era.

Daniel seems more like a system quarterback now than a Heisman Trophy contender. He played miserably against Northwestern, tossing three interceptions and becoming progressively more inaccurate as the night wore on.

Christensen’s Spread seems flawed by forced diversity. On a night when the Tigers should’ve simply thrown the ball to Chase Coffman 20 times, Mizzou’s big tight end caught seven passes for 67 yards.

We might one day remember Coffman as the Michael Jordan of college football and Christensen as Dean Smith. Christensen might be the only man capable of holding Coffman to fewer than 10 receptions a game.

I spent all night begging Daniel to throw to Coffman. He caught everything in his area code and a couple of over-the-border balls. On a night when the Tigers just needed to move the chains, Christensen repeatedly got cute with reverses, fake reverses, the Wildcat formation and deep balls to receivers not named Jeremy Maclin.

It was very frustrating.

Pinkel and Christensen both need to write thank-you notes to Pat Fitzgerald.

Northwestern simply refused to score points in the fourth quarter. Fitzgerald stood on his sideline, dropped to his knees and prayed that the clock would expire during the final quarter. Rather than throw deep against Missouri’s vulnerable corners and safeties, Fitzgerald had his QB throw slants, screens and occasional dumps over the middle of the field.

With a chance to drive for the game-winning field goal at the end of regulation, Fitzgerald ran the ball once, threw sideways twice and punted. Herm Edwards must be his coaching role model.

Whatever, the Wildcats are always irrelevant when it comes to big-time football. Northwestern traveled to San Antonio to reveal things about the Tigers.

The questions that were raised about the Tigers in the losses to Kansas and Oklahoma were all answered on Monday.

The answers were unpleasant and unflattering. They put Missouri’s last two seasons in proper perspective. Gary Pinkel still has a lot of work to do. The Tigers have not arrived. They’re the kings of a pathetic Big 12 North.

Let’s save the ticker-tape parades and unseemly celebrations and shrieking until Pinkel puts a bit more on his resume.
And this is why I was laughing yesterday, Frazod.
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Old 12-31-2008, 03:18 PM   #91
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I wish you luck.

That's the best I can do.
Maybe Reesing will look as bad as Daniel did an you can feel sorry for his mom like I did for Chase's.
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Old 12-31-2008, 03:19 PM   #92
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It should be noted that there's really only ONE person doing this - one sad, bitter, pathetic person who isn't even liked by other members of his own fanbase.
You deserve this shit, Frazod. You went on for months and months about KU's "cupcake" schedule and how big a fraud they were, when in reality, MU was the only real fraud in the Big 12 North.

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Look at his posts. All he does here is talk about KU basketball or flail away at me on MU threads - that's it. Even in cyberspace he can't find a life.
Haven't you considered the possibility that maybe this isn't the primary internet forum that I spend my time on?
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Old 12-31-2008, 03:23 PM   #93
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So you posted this just so you could respond to him? Thanks for admitting you posted it just to stir shit up. Doesn't that make you a troll?
Yes, but I'm not sure if that makes me a troll (you decide I guess?). Considering it's reached 7 pages, it seems to be a topic that people are interested in talking about.
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Old 12-31-2008, 03:24 PM   #94
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No! It makes him a fan.

KC Connection can hate my guts, and that's cool. If he hates MU, even better.

KC Connection, Frazod and Myself are Real College Football Fans, and we do NOT seek peace, love, and understanding.

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LOL... last year it was SCOREBOARD SCOREBOARD SCOREBOARD, and this year "it's a rivalry game and shit happens".

I completely agree that shit happens, which is why you can't just say "Mizzou beat Nebraska and Kansas didn't" (or whatever)... you have to look at the big picture.

Big picture: Neither Mizzou or Kansas can play with the top teams in the country. Kansas played with OU for a little over a half, and got their asses handed to them against Texas and Tech. Mizzou played with OSU and got their asses handed to them by OU and Texas. Last year Kansas beat OSU and Mizzou beat Tech, but neither were as good as they are this year.

Mizzou and Kansas can both beat up North teams and non-conference creampuffs. The only notable games are Mizzou/Illinois last year and Kansas/USF this year... Mizzou won by 6, Kansas lost by 3.

Mizzou beat Kansas by one possession last year, Kansas beat Mizzou by one possession this year.


I've thought all along that Mizzou was "the best of the rest" and that Kansas was a couple of steps behind them, but if you look at the last two seasons, there really is nothing that separates the two teams. Yeah, if you're looking at the past 5 years or the past 20 years of bowl appearances, Mizzou probably wins (even though head-to-head is even), but in the last two years they're a lot closer to each other than some want to believe.

I had Mizzou fans telling me they would play for the NC and that there was hope of at least playing with OU, so yes, beatdowns by UT and OU and barely beating Northwestern shows Mizzou is a fraud just like Kansas losing to Mizzou last year proved Kansas was a fraud.

Kansas won their last game of the season last year on a much bigger stage, yet some still thought they were frauds. Well, hate to break it to you all who think Mizzou is vastly superior, but if you believe Kansas was a fraud last year you have to believe Mizzou is a fraud this year.
Always good to see somebody else that recognizes the situation.
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Old 12-31-2008, 03:30 PM   #96
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You deserve this shit, Frazod. You went on for months and months about KU's "cupcake" schedule and how big a fraud they were, when in reality, MU was the only real fraud in the Big 12 North.


Haven't you considered the possibility that maybe this isn't the primary internet forum that I spend my time on?
Please. Shit from you means nothing, assclown. You continue to be a flailing, impotent douche.

The funny thing is how you continue ignore the obvious. Kansas lost to every tough team in the south they played, just as I said they would. Hell, they aren't even ranked. The defending Orange Bowl Champions, not even ranked. How did that happen? Never mind - I already know the answer.

You keep harping on how Missouri tanked this year, but it was so painfully obvious that Kansas was a fluke last year and would do nothing this year that they have AT NO POINT been worth a even second of national notice or attention.

And I'm glad you have another forum. Is there somebody over there who owns your bitch ass the same way I do here? If so, please pass along his contact info so we can share a laugh.
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You said they were.

Anyway, I don't see how losing to MU last year made KU a fraud. MU had a very good team last year.
It didn't. Though Frazod would like to make it seem that way.
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Please. Shit from you means nothing, assclown. You continue to be a flailing, impotent douche.
Dude, you've been completely owned here. Your team flat out sucked on the big stage this season, proving themselves to be the very overrated frauds that you ranted about all of last season. It's hilarious that you continue to deny this.

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The funny thing is how you continue ignore the obvious. Kansas lost to every tough team in the south they played, just as I said they would. Hell, they aren't even ranked. The defending Orange Bowl Champions, not even ranked. How did that happen? Never mind - I already know the answer.
First of all, different years, different players, different teams. Both KU and MU were clearly worse this season. This has been brought up time and again with you, by a number of people. And secondly, this isn't about KU. It's about how MU is on KU's level.

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You keep harping on how Missouri tanked this year, but it was so painfully obvious that Kansas was a fluke last year and would do nothing this year that they have AT NO POINT been worth a even second of national notice or attention.
Yeah...a huge fluke that won the Orange Bowl and lost by one posession to the great MU.

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No, I'm afraid you are one-of-a-kind.
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Old 12-31-2008, 03:43 PM   #99
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You conflict yourself at every turn. First it is about Kansas, then it's not. Then it is about Missouri, then it's not. You thrash and flail, provide great humor, ignore the obvious, and claim victory. You really are priceless.

If you think I'm your biggest enemy here, I beg to differ - check the ****ing reerun staring back at you from the mirror. He has caused you nothing but problems.
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Sorry, but if you think Missouri losing to Kansas wasn't the biggest choke job of the ****ing year, then you haven't been paying attention, which would be typical. What the hell did Kansas do this year other than beat Missouri while they were looking ahead to the championship game? I wish Kansas had beat Nebraska so that game would have meant something. I suspect the outcome would have been much different.
Wait...Missouri did something this year? Oh that's right, they beat Illinois 52-42. Great team you guys have there.
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It wasn't the biggest choke. MU's whole year was. That's why I disagree with the term "fraud". They weren't frauds, they A) reflected a weak attitude of Pinkel or B) let the expectations get into their head (also arguably Pinkel's failure). Regardless, they weren't frauds but they did choke all year. Chase went out with a chance at redemption, but it seemed he still had a throat full of Jayhawk.
If you choke all year, that makes your team a fraud.
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Wait...Missouri did something this year? Oh that's right, they beat Illinois 52-42. Great team you guys have there.
MU did demolish Nebraska at their place.
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I don't know if I hate your guts, but I think your graphics are pretty lame.
I find it beyond amusing that you and several other douches keep going back to that.

Would it surprise you to know that I spend about 2 to 5 minutes making most of the shit I put up here, graphics-wise?

I've got more time-intensive stuff, but the bulk of it is largely proprietary and I'm not putting it up.

Anyway, I believe I see why you draw such ire; in terms of sports-trash you bring absolutely nothing to the table.

Dick.
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This argument will never end, who gives a shit....MU had another good season, and it was below most peoples expectations, but i expect the program to continue success in years to come. These "choking" tigers have set a nice path, lets see if KU can do anything when Reesing is gone.
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You conflict yourself at every turn. First it is about Kansas, then it's not. Then it is about Missouri, then it's not. You thrash and flail, provide great humor, ignore the obvious, and claim victory. You really are priceless.
Read the thread. This has nothing to do with KU. It's about MU being a fraud, and being on KU's level.


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KC_Connection has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.KC_Connection has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.KC_Connection has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.KC_Connection has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.KC_Connection has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.KC_Connection has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.KC_Connection has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.KC_Connection has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.KC_Connection has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.KC_Connection has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.KC_Connection has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.
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