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Old 01-18-2009, 02:58 PM  
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In general, are NFL players more athletic than NBA players?
Hootie seems to think Kobe Bryant is stronger than all the cornerbacks and safeties in the NFL, and that LeBron James would be the best NFL player of all time if he played the game. You know, because guys like Tracy McGrady and Stephon Marbury would just dominate as a WR in the NFL. Nobody could cover them.
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Old 01-18-2009, 03:13 PM   #16
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Why aren't soccer players in the mix?

They're athletic as hell..and I hate that sport.
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Old 01-18-2009, 03:18 PM   #17
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I've always wondered about the 40 times of NBA players.

What do you think Stockton was running at the end of his career?

Or Shawn Bradley?
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Old 01-18-2009, 03:19 PM   #18
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That is a tough question. Both sports have some great athletes. But I would love to see what position LeBron James would play in the NFL. He is 6'9 275, is one of the fastest players in the NFL and can jump out of the gym.

He would be an unbelievable WR... The size of a DE and the speed of Randy Moss
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Old 01-18-2009, 03:25 PM   #19
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That is a tough question. Both sports have some great athletes. But I would love to see what position LeBron James would play in the NFL. He is 6'9 275, is one of the fastest players in the NFL and can jump out of the gym.

He would be an unbelievable WR... The size of a DE and the speed of Randy Moss
Certainly. Lebron James could possibly make it in the NFL, nobody knows for sure. People say he was one of the best WR out of Ohio if he chose to play in college. Yeah, so what? Do you know how many awesome athletes come out of high school going to Oklahoma, USC, LSU, etc and still don't get into the league?

To say that LBJ would dominate in the NFL is ludicrous. You cannot know for sure, and he plays basketball without pads. Some people seem to think if you are really athletic you would play basketball, and not football. While that may be true, not everybody can get the acquired skill to be good at basketball. I can tell you this, the most athletic guys at my high school were football players, and not basketball players. They tried to play basketball but just couldn't hit shots or didn't have the fundamentals. In football you can get away with your sheer athletic talent for a long time, in basketball you see countless nonathletic dudes playing D1 hoops though.
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Old 01-18-2009, 03:26 PM   #20
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Old 01-18-2009, 03:30 PM   #21
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I've always wondered about the 40 times of NBA players.

What do you think Stockton was running at the end of his career?

Or Shawn Bradley?
I just looked at last years NBA combine results and laughed. Guys that people assume are great athletes showed, well, they just aren't. I'm a KU guy and Darrell Arthur had a 28 inch vert, and benched pressed like 185 11 times. What a joke. Darrell Arthur looked as a real athletic guy too. Then I went to look at wide receivers, corners, safeties, and tight ends in the NFL. I didn't see any that couldn't bench 225, not 185, 14 times or beat a 28 inch standing vertical leap. And those were the WORST guys.
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Old 01-18-2009, 03:31 PM   #22
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You gotta be shitting me. NFL combine shows that the majority of corners, linebackers, tight ends, wide receivers, etc are MUCH stronger than their NBA counterparts, faster, and can jump just as high. In addition, they almost always weigh more and they are still freaks of nature. Not even remotely close? Have you ever looked at the NBA combine numbers compared to NFL combine numbers?? In basketball there is alot of acquired skill and length, and obviously athleticism. Which is why the NBA combine isn't really a big deal. NFL combine is a huge deal because guys shoot way up and way down the draft just because they are freak athletes. Kevin Durant, 31 inch vert, can't even bench press 185.
Yeah, but the NBA doesn't have people like Damion McIntosh, Damon Huard, or Gary Anderson. I think you can argue that some NFL players are as athletic or more athletic, but you can't say the NFL is more athletic generally.
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Old 01-18-2009, 03:32 PM   #23
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You gotta be shitting me. NFL combine shows that the majority of corners, linebackers, tight ends, wide receivers, etc are MUCH stronger than their NBA counterparts, faster, and can jump just as high. In addition, they almost always weigh more and they are still freaks of nature. Not even remotely close? Have you ever looked at the NBA combine numbers compared to NFL combine numbers?? In basketball there is alot of acquired skill and length, and obviously athleticism. Which is why the NBA combine isn't really a big deal. NFL combine is a huge deal because guys shoot way up and way down the draft just because they are freak athletes. Kevin Durant, 31 inch vert, can't even bench press 185.
Nice selective example. I'm sure Durant can't hold Damon Huard's jock as athleticim goes.
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Yeah, but the NBA doesn't have people like Damion McIntosh, Damon Huard, or Gary Anderson. I think you can argue that some NFL players are as athletic or more athletic, but you can't say the NFL is more athletic generally.
Definitely. You are correct. The guy in my avatar is an example. Same can be said about those really tall oafs in the NBA that are 7 foot 2 and are slow as molasses. I guess what I'm trying to say is the BEST ATHLETES are in the NFL, not the NBA. Which is undeniable. Even look at the quarterbacks, alot of them can run 4.7 to 4.8 40's, which is pretty fast. I know alot of fat asses sitting at their computers will say they ran that in high school, but we all know they didn't. At least Damon McIntosh has going for him is he is probably very strong, and rather agile and quick for his size.
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Old 01-18-2009, 03:34 PM   #25
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Nice selective example. I'm sure Durant can't hold Damon Huard's jock as athleticim goes.
Kirk Hinrich was one of the best athletes in the 2003 NBA draft according to combine numbers. I guess he should be able to play in the NFL huh?
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Definitely. You are correct. I guess what I'm trying to say is the BEST ATHLETES are in the NFL, not the NBA. Which is undeniable. Even look at the quarterbacks, alot of them can run 4.7 to 4.8 40's, which is pretty fast. I know alot of fat asses sitting at their computers will say they ran that in high school, but we all know they didn't. At least Damon McIntosh has going for him is he is probably very strong, and rather agile and quick for his size.
A 4.8 really isn't that fast.

I'm 22, and in high school I ran a 4.8. That isn't quick at all.
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A 4.8 really isn't that fast.

I'm 22, and in high school I ran a 4.8. That isn't quick at all.
You do realize that Priest Holmes was probably running like a 4.7 in his later years, right?
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You do realize that Priest Holmes was probably running like a 4.7 in his later years, right?
I don't really believe that, but maybe.

I timed a 4.83 and that really isn't fast. My best friend was fast..he ran like a 4.45. That's fast. There's a big difference between 4.45 and what I ran. Big difference.
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Old 01-18-2009, 03:41 PM   #29
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A 4.8 really isn't that fast.

I'm 22, and in high school I ran a 4.8. That isn't quick at all.
Faster than you think. The great majority of people by far and large cannot run a 4.8. Whenever I talk to someone who says they can run a 4.5 or bench 300 or something. I ask them if they want to come with me to my friend who is in strength and agility training. He times 40's for alot of high school and college athletes and develops conditioning programs for them. He said that most high school kids have inflated athletic numbers because they aren't properly timed, don't use correct form on lifts, etc.

Everybody that has came with me has at least ran .2 higher than what they thought they could ran and waaay lower in all compound lifts. People are naturally lie about their athletic talent all the time. I laugh my ass off whenever I'm tailgating at arrowhead and I hear guys go, yeah back before I tore blew my ACL in high school I could run a 4.4 and bench 375. LOL

I honestly will extend this offer to anybody who thinks they can run under a 4.65. Although you may just be a great athlete and are not inflating how athletic you are, but I bet 9 out of 10 people that say that run no where near that fast.
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This isn't even really a question for anyone who watched "The Superstars" series in the 1970's. Football players owned that competition. Basketball players were not really competitive although they generally did better than the race car drivers and golfers.
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