Chiefs vrabel a chief - Page 39

oldandslow · 02-27-2009, 01:24 PM

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**SAUTO** · 02-27-2009, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

So we traded for a guy that brings nothing more than Edwards did on the field, but traded for him because he's won a SB?
BFD.

Christ, if leadership was that important, we could have signed a 30-something, declining Ray Lewis, who is 10X the leader Vrabel is and has won a SB as well - got a better player in doing so,and kept that pick.

*Not advocating signing Lewis, using him to make a point.

IMO vrabel can actually tackle where donnie lately hasnt so much

keg in kc · 02-27-2009, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

So we traded for a guy that brings nothing more than Edwards did on the field, but traded for him because he's won a SB?

I think what you're missing is that they're completely different players. Edwards is an undersized coverage linebacker that plays inside in a 3-4, and we've already got one of those in Derrick Johnson. Vrabel is physically much bigger than Edwards (he's 2 inches taller and probably 25 pounds heavier), who can rush the passer, and he'll play outside in the 3-4. We don't have anybody like that on the roster right now.

Now, don't confuse that for me saying I'm signing off on the trade, I'm just trying to get some things straightened out. He's not Donnie Edwards, at all, by any stretch of the imagination.

CrazyHorse · 02-27-2009, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'm sick of being attacked, and having words put in my mouth.

Sorry if you feel that defending myself = freaking out.

Oh yeah....you've been freaking out.

Maybe you should take a break, bud. Go down to Arrowhead hook up with your NFL insider and watch some game tape. Yeah.

Deberg_1990 · 02-27-2009, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I think what you're missing is that they're completely different players. Edwards is an undersized coverage linebacker that plays inside in a 3-4, and we've already got one of those in Derrick Johnson. Vrabel is physically much bigger than Edwards (he's 2 inches taller and probably 25 pounds heavier), who can rush the passer, and he'll play outside in the 3-4. We don't have anybody like that on the roster right now.

Now, don't confuse that for me saying I'm signing off on the trade, I'm just trying to get some things straightened out. He's not Donnie Edwards, at all, by any stretch of the imagination.

oh yea, and Vrabel has 3 rings.

Donnie Edwards ZER0

htismaqe · 02-27-2009, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Edwards is an undersized coverage linebacker that plays inside in a 3-4, and we've already got one of those in Derrick Johnson. Vrabel is physically much bigger than Edwards (he's 2 inches taller and probably 25 pounds heavier), who can rush the passer, and he'll play outside in the 3-4. We don't have anybody like that on the roster right now.

QFT

RedThat · 02-27-2009, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

Right or wrong I think Pioli was looking for someone has a detailed knowledge of the way he wants things run in the locker room and on defense. An anti-Waters that has completely bought into the system and the "Patriots Way."

Edwards really doesn't fit bill and off the top of my head I can't think of any FA that could fill that role like Vrabel either.

I think you're right.

I think this move really resembles what Pioli said the first day of his press conference when he was hired here.

He said:

"Having players that know and understand schemes is just as important as talent level."

I think Vrabel is a product of the system that was run in NE, the same type of system Pioli is bringing here. Im excited about this move not only for that reason because he brings so many little things to the table that are HUGE part of success. He's got great versitily. You can line him up as an OLB to rush the passer. He did an outstanding job filling in for Bruschi when he was out of the lineup. He's smart, tough, got great work ethics, and of course a veteran leader who is going to make an excellent role player.

Not the best player out there by any means, but definately a good fit who is going to play a role.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-27-2009, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

Cmon OTW. They signed him to bring leadership to the locker room and because he is a winner that brings respect. Also Vrabel had a good season in 2007 but was hurt last year so maybe he has 1-2 good to solid seasons left and also helps the D with leadership and the 3-4 scheme.

Like I said I am good with this as long as the pick is low.

Vrabel is reported as saying that injuries played no part in his decline in production last year.

Listen, I'm not trying to sway anyone, just voicing my opinion. It is what it is, and it's over. I'd love to see it work out, but since I don't see him playing for 4 more years, I'm not seeing it. He's a rental.

CupidStunt · 02-27-2009, 04:35 PM

The funniest thing about these armchair GMs is that they seem to already know the Chiefs overpaid, Vrabel will be signing a 15-year extension, and he's the unquestioned starter at SOLB.

News flash: he's coming here for chopped liver, and he'll be a backup/rotational player, at least until they have someone who BELONGS in the NFL at the position.

Mecca · 02-27-2009, 04:36 PM

Look at the brightside atleast we won't be using a top 5 pick on a LB.

**doomy3** · 02-27-2009, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Look at the brightside atleast we won't be using a top 5 pick on a LB.

Well, at least you and Darth CarlSatan share this opinion.

Pants · 02-27-2009, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Vrabel is reported as saying that injuries played no part in his decline in production last year.

Listen, I'm not trying to sway anyone, just voicing my opinion. It is what it is, and it's over. I'd love to see it work out, but since I don't see him playing for 4 more years, I'm not seeing it. He's a rental.

No player of character, which Vrabel is supposed to be, will admit that injuries caused a decline. They don't want anyone perceiving that as an excuse.

soundmind · 02-27-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooster

Edwards career is over and Vrabel's isn't. It isn't that hard to understand.

I'm absolutely not going to be against this, Donnie was unfortunately done I think, and Lewis, well...he's gonna want a shot at a ring in 09.

Vrabel strikes me as a player, who's a coach on the field, and the PERFECT influence for a group of guys trying to LEARN right now. I think on a team philosophy level, this move could be genius. Sick of the sh*t that comes from the mouths of LJ & BW? Enter the likes of Vrabel - they want a team full of guys who

and work!

orange · 02-27-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Christ, if leadership was that important, we could have signed a 30-something, declining Ray Lewis, who is 10X the leader Vrabel is and has won a SB as well - got a better player in doing so,and kept that pick.

NO! You can't have him! He's ours!

Chief3188 · 02-27-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Look at the brightside atleast we won't be using a top 5 pick on a LB.

Yeah because that worked out horribly with Derrick Thomas.

Deberg_1990 · 02-27-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Look at the brightside atleast we won't be using a top 5 pick on a LB.

of course not. Thats being saved for a RT.

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