Chiefs Chiefs trade 34th pick for Cassel and Vrabel - Page 41

**chiefforlife** · 01:21 PM

Chiefs just got Cassel, ON NFLN!

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/02...with_patriots/

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The Kansas City Chiefs announced on Saturday that the club has acquired QB Matt Cassel and LB Mike Vrabel from New England in exchange for the Chiefs second-round pick (34th overall) in the 2009 NFL Draft. The agreement is contingent on both players reporting and passing their physicals.

“I have a long history with both players,” said Kansas City Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli. “Mike and Matt are men that I respect both personally and professionally. I look forward to having them as new members of the Chiefs family.”

**BigMeatballDave** · 02-28-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut

To tell you the truth i dont like it. Tyler thigpen had a good season last year. So we reward him by sitting him on the bench. Ok cassell is here but i still would of wanted thigpen to try to win the starting job. The losing part that herm fault. His game planning suck. With thigpen we could of won a few more games. If not for herm shoddy game management. I'll give cassell a chance. Just let thigpen prove himself.
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Cassel is already better than Thig will ever be.

milkman · 02-28-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

That's what I think too. He knows value.

And if we somehow get Cassel and Vrabel and end up with, say the #15 and #40 picks in the draft, Pioli might as well be annointed because he's a goddamn genious (CP spelling).

Well now that the Chiefs are out of the market for QB, San Francisco might want to trade up to the chiefs spot to get a shot at Sanchez if they believ that Seattle has any interest in him.

Still, there's a high price to pay to make a move that far, and I just can't see it happening.

I don't see any way a team moves all the way from 15.

nychief · 02-28-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rad

Remember that game Cassell had Vs. the Jets? Came back to tie it up in the final ticks...

now, just need randy moss.

tomahawk kid · 02-28-2009, 01:57 PM

I cannot wrap my head around people actually complaining about this deal.

We just got a TON of value for a second round pick. I hope we used a gun......

milkman · 02-28-2009, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Well, I'd say targeting a guy like Chase Coffman in the draft would become a bigger priority, but I'm a guy that thinks having a pass catching weapon at TE is a necessity.

Chiefs fan, in general, over value the TE position.

eazyb81 · 02-28-2009, 01:57 PM

Teicher on ESPNews:

Cassel finally gives KC stability at QB position.

KC needs guys that know how to win, and Pioli knows this, thus Vrabel and Cassel additions.

Wow, that was a very weak interview.

**doomy3** · 02-28-2009, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Well now that the Chiefs are out of the market for QB, San Francisco might want to trade up to the chiefs spot to get a shot at Sanchez if they believ that Seattle has any interest in him.

Still, there's a high price to pay to make a move that far, and I just can't see it happening.

I don't see any way a team moves all the way from 15.

Where does Tampa draft? I could see them wanting to move up, and they certainly have cap room to draft Sanchez...

keg in kc · 02-28-2009, 01:58 PM

I don't particularly like Cassel, I think what middling success he had is largely attributable to Moss and Welker, but at least it was a second round pick. I can live with that, even if I can't say I like it. Especially if it means I don't have to see Thigpen out there playing ducks unlimited.

Either way, it was an extremely ballsy move by Pioli.

I hope for the Chiefs' sake, Cassel turns out to be a franchise quarterback that shines for the better part of a decade.

I think it makes the draft even more interesting, and harder to read.

**SAUTO** · 02-28-2009, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief

now, just need randy moss.

it was a pretty good pass too, 17-18 yards on a rope, while running

mikey23545 · 02-28-2009, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

Not to interrupt, but you may want to ease back on the throttle somewhat, Mr. 'Hamas' Jenkins. It sounds as though you're implying that Pioli and Haley don't know how to evaluate quarterbacks. Nothing, obviously, could be further from the truth.

FAX

Not compared to The Hamas, they don't.

**SAUTO** · 02-28-2009, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

Where does Tampa draft? I could see them wanting to move up, and they certainly have cap room to draft Sanchez...

19 i think

DaWolf · 02-28-2009, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Nope. He's a mobile QB--a facet of this game that isn't talked about. But he isn't a guy who will tuck the ball under if he doesn't like his first read.

He can take off with it, that's for sure:

whatsmynameagain · 02-28-2009, 01:58 PM

I knew it and I called it

**Mr. Kotter** · 02-28-2009, 01:59 PM

Mel "The Hair" Kiper (not that I'm a fan) on Cassel:

http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?showtopic=41794

Kiper was asked to put himself in the position of the Lions (picks 1, 20, and 33) and Chiefs (picks 3 and 34), assuming they were considering taking quarterbacks Matthew Stafford and Mark Sanchez in the draft. Given that, would he take Stafford or Sanchez, or would he rather have Matt Cassel in a trade?

"If I were Detroit or Kansas City, I would make that move in a heartbeat. If you're asking me if I would rather have Matt Cassel or Matthew Stafford or Mark Sanchez, I'd rather have Matt Cassel," Kiper answered.

Kiper doubted that Cassel would be available, however, saying he's an insurance policy for Tom Brady.

"He looked like he should have been the No. 1 overall pick in the draft. It's amazing. To watch him play this year, if he would have been the No. 1 pick in the draft, people would have been very happy with the way he's playing right now," Kiper said.

"He came out the same year the other three quarterbacks did [Alex Smith, Aaron Rodgers, Jason Campbell] and right now he's better than those other three – and I'm including [Jay] Cutler in that. I would rather have Cassel than Cutler. So, to me, I think Cassel is more than worthy of being a guy that the Kansas City Chiefs or Detroit Lions go after. He's played to the level of a No. 1 pick overall this year."

ChiefsCountry · 02-28-2009, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Well now that the Chiefs are out of the market for QB, San Francisco might want to trade up to the chiefs spot to get a shot at Sanchez if they believ that Seattle has any interest in him.

Still, there's a high price to pay to make a move that far, and I just can't see it happening.

I don't see any way a team moves all the way from 15.

Jets would be the only one I could see trying something but they would be getting raped trying to move up that high.

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tomahawk kid Drunk in the Neighborhood Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Beating the War Drums Casino cash: $10001837	I cannot wrap my head around people actually complaining about this deal. We just got a TON of value for a second round pick. I hope we used a gun......
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eazyb81 The Illuminati Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: the road less traveled Casino cash: $9984900	Teicher on ESPNews: Cassel finally gives KC stability at QB position. KC needs guys that know how to win, and Pioli knows this, thus Vrabel and Cassel additions. Wow, that was a very weak interview.
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keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	I don't particularly like Cassel, I think what middling success he had is largely attributable to Moss and Welker, but at least it was a second round pick. I can live with that, even if I can't say I like it. Especially if it means I don't have to see Thigpen out there playing ducks unlimited. Either way, it was an extremely ballsy move by Pioli. I hope for the Chiefs' sake, Cassel turns out to be a franchise quarterback that shines for the better part of a decade. I think it makes the draft even more interesting, and harder to read.
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Mr. Kotter The Dude Abides Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Dakota Country Casino cash: $3314285	Mel "The Hair" Kiper (not that I'm a fan) on Cassel: http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?showtopic=41794 Kiper was asked to put himself in the position of the Lions (picks 1, 20, and 33) and Chiefs (picks 3 and 34), assuming they were considering taking quarterbacks Matthew Stafford and Mark Sanchez in the draft. Given that, would he take Stafford or Sanchez, or would he rather have Matt Cassel in a trade? "If I were Detroit or Kansas City, I would make that move in a heartbeat. If you're asking me if I would rather have Matt Cassel or Matthew Stafford or Mark Sanchez, I'd rather have Matt Cassel," Kiper answered. Kiper doubted that Cassel would be available, however, saying he's an insurance policy for Tom Brady. "He looked like he should have been the No. 1 overall pick in the draft. It's amazing. To watch him play this year, if he would have been the No. 1 pick in the draft, people would have been very happy with the way he's playing right now," Kiper said. "He came out the same year the other three quarterbacks did [Alex Smith, Aaron Rodgers, Jason Campbell] and right now he's better than those other three – and I'm including [Jay] Cutler in that. I would rather have Cassel than Cutler. So, to me, I think Cassel is more than worthy of being a guy that the Kansas City Chiefs or Detroit Lions go after. He's played to the level of a No. 1 pick overall this year." __________________ "I've always said I worry about legacy and winning rings more than making money at this moment...We see what's going on around the league, but at the same time, I'll never do anything that's going to hurt us from keeping the great players around me.”
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