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Old 02-28-2009, 11:52 AM  
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Chiefs trade 34th pick for Cassel and Vrabel
Chiefs just got Cassel, ON NFLN!

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/02...with_patriots/

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The Kansas City Chiefs announced on Saturday that the club has acquired QB Matt Cassel and LB Mike Vrabel from New England in exchange for the Chiefs second-round pick (34th overall) in the 2009 NFL Draft. The agreement is contingent on both players reporting and passing their physicals.

“I have a long history with both players,” said Kansas City Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli. “Mike and Matt are men that I respect both personally and professionally. I look forward to having them as new members of the Chiefs family.”
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Old 02-28-2009, 03:38 PM   #811
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Old 02-28-2009, 03:40 PM   #812
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I think that Mike Castle is going to be very good for us.
And it's VRABEL.

NOT Vrable!!!
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Old 02-28-2009, 03:40 PM   #813
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SECOND-ROUND PICK FOR CASSEL
Posted by Mike Florio: Saturday, February 28, 2009 1:34 PM
I previously was convinced that the Patriots wouldn't be able to work out a trade sending quarterback Matt Cassel to the Chiefs because I believed that new Chiefs G.M. Scott Pioli and his former colleagues in New England feared the perception that one side got snookered.

There was no such fear, but it won't change the perception that one side got snookered.

Peter King of SI.com (who also does some work for NBC, and pretty much every other media company on the planet) reports that the Chiefs gave up only a second-round draft pick for Cassel.

Wow.

A second-round pick, for a guy who merited a $14.65 million, one-year contract based on his play in 2008.

Let's consider that for a second. Daunte Culpepper with blown-out knee was traded for a second-round pick. A.J. Feeley was traded for a second-round pick.

So, with all due apologies to the Patriots, the current score is Pioli 1, Pats 0

Can't wait to revisit this comment from Florio in 5 years when the score is Belichick - 2 more Lombardi Trophies, Pioli - 0 AFC Championship game appearances.
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Old 02-28-2009, 03:40 PM   #814
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wow that's optimistic.

You're still short on talent, comparatively, have a REALLY young team, in the tough AFC, and implementing a new system on offense and defense with all new coaches this year.

But other than that, you're right in the mix...
The AFC may be tough, but the West sucks. I don't believe we will have a chance this year, but it isn't out of the realm of possibility in this division
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Old 02-28-2009, 03:44 PM   #815
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Not expecting 16-0. But I did expect a QB that had a chance of developing into a great QB. I don't think Cassel gives us that chance. He's only had one year as a starter, but he had a hell of a supporting cast. He'll have to improve a lot this season just to stay where he is in QB rating or any other measure you want to use for QB play.
That's a really weak argument, but people continue to make it. Most great and successful Super Bowl caliber QB's have a great supporting cast. You could count on one hand the number of QB's in NFL history that could lift a team of bad players up into a good offense.

If Pioli fails to put weapons around Cassel, he'll fail. But before even Tom Brady went 16-0, the years before that they were a 10-6, 11-5 type team with Brady and his mish-mash group of WR's, which is why they went out and got Welker and Moss. Tom Brady wasn't even TOM BRADY before that.
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Old 02-28-2009, 03:45 PM   #816
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That argument pretty much gets canceled out by the Bill Belichick thought it was a good trade argument.
Perhaps. But that in turn gets canceled out by the fact that Carl Peterson would not have made this trade since the quarterback was younger than 35, which means by definition that it's a good move.
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Old 02-28-2009, 03:45 PM   #817
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I think we will trade our 1st round pick for another first and a third.

Chiefs are on the road to success!
If the Chiefs are going to swap 1sts with someone, they better get a hell of a lot more than a 3rd.
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Old 02-28-2009, 03:46 PM   #818
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This was a part of the reason I wasn't thrilled with hiring Scott Pioli like most here.

**** you Scott Pioli.

Geez dude,

Are you ever happy about anything??

Every GM and head coach in the history of the universe is going to want "His guys"
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Old 02-28-2009, 03:47 PM   #819
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Can't wait to revisit this comment from Florio in 5 years when the score is Belichick - 2 more Lombardi Trophies, Pioli - 0 AFC Championship game appearances.
How about giving the guy a chance first? I know that all of you NFL GMs posting on the board here feel the one and only way to rebuild this team is drafting a QB at #3, and now that we have made this trade all hope is lost. Give me a break with that shit. Let Cassel come in here and play, let Pioli rebuild this team, then give us your breakdown. What a joke all this negativity is.
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Old 02-28-2009, 03:48 PM   #820
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You're channeling my 7 and 4 year old I see...

And I want some gummy bears.
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Old 02-28-2009, 03:49 PM   #821
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Based on the stunningly reeruned "yards allowed per game" you are correct.

I've posted diatribes against the stupidity of this system before. Last I knew, POINTS, and not yards, determined who won and lost in the NFL.

Based on POINTS allowed, the Patriots were 25th. That sucks.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...G&d-447263-n=1
Uh, dude, you do realize that you had the chart upside down, with the 32nd-ranked Lions at the top?

The patriots defense was 8th (not 25th), at 19.3 ppg.
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You're a Chiefs' fan, geni(o)us!

Complaining about this trade after the last 20 years is like throwing a fit because someone cut in front of you at KFC after spending the last three months getting gang raped by silverback apes in the jungle.

It sucks, I don't like it, but as far as ****ings go this one doesn't even make the list...
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