Chiefs trade 34th pick for Cassel and Vrabel

[chiefforlife]

Chiefs just got Cassel, ON NFLN!

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/02...with_patriots/

The Kansas City Chiefs announced on Saturday that the club has acquired QB Matt Cassel and LB Mike Vrabel from New England in exchange for the Chiefs second-round pick (34th overall) in the 2009 NFL Draft. The agreement is contingent on both players reporting and passing their physicals.

“I have a long history with both players,” said Kansas City Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli. “Mike and Matt are men that I respect both personally and professionally. I look forward to having them as new members of the Chiefs family.”

[tboss27]

Originally Posted by tomahawk kid

I cannot wrap my head around people actually complaining about this deal.

We just got a TON of value for a second round pick. I hope we used a gun......

I can't either. It's true the guy doesn't have a ton of experience, but he was night and day better than anything we put out there last year. It's not a sure thing he'll be a good fit, but i'm exstatic about the potential to be. Every other Sportscenter past week 12 ESPN had his stats side by side w/ Brady's first year, and Cassel's were very close. Not saying he's the next Tom Brady, but I like his chances of leading our team to success waaaaaaay better than I would w/ a rookie QB or Thigpen.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

That's amazing. We had like the 31st ranked 3rd down defense and the worst red zone defense in the NFL or something like that, and yet the 8th best defense by points.

Ah well. Top 10 defense we were, I guess. It sure as hell didn't look like it on the field, but points per game is where it's at, so I guess we were.

You'd like to be closer to 17, but it's hard to complain if you're giving up under 20.

I wonder how much the dropoff at quarterback and on the offense as a whole had on the other side of the ball. Maybe none, but my guess is that the offense that you guys put on the field in '07 can hide a few holes on the other side of the ball. You've got way too much talent to be bad on defense (unlike us back in the 2002-2005 range), but maybe that unit isn't what it was.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

You keep implying that DCS is a GoChiefs alt. That's not true; in some of the BBQ threads last month, DCS showed a knowledge of KC that GoChiefs couldn't have possessed. They are different posters.

It's hilarious...it's one of the reasons I love DCS. He drives people wild thinking he is I.

[unlurking]

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Don't you EVEN tell me how I'm supposed to feel about this. Who the **** do you think you are?!

I might warm to this guy with some wins and signs that he's the real deal, but until then; he's on the bubble.

Wow, you act like you matter?! WTF are you smoking?

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by Claythan

It's hilarious...it's one of the reasons I love DCS. He drives people wild thinking he is I.

You guys are so different in both style and content. I don't get the comparisons.

[kstater]

Originally Posted by PastorMikH

One question, since these were trades and not FA signings, why didn't we do them sooner? Did we have to wait until FA signing to start since Cassell is tagged or something?

I'm going to guess they were at the combine then spent the rest of the week breaking down tape and negotiating.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

You keep implying that DCS is a GoChiefs alt. That's not true; in some of the BBQ threads last month, DCS showed a knowledge of KC that GoChiefs couldn't have possessed. They are different posters.

They just want to act like a bunch of one who sucks the peniss, because we traded for Cassel, I think it's lame, and they want to stir the pot.

But I hope all of their enjoyment of this nonsense can still fill their souls when the Chiefs are still going nowhere two to three years from now.

[kstater]

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

They just want to act like a bunch of one who sucks the peniss, because we traded for Cassel, I think it's lame, and they want to stir the pot.

But I hope all of their enjoyment of this nonsense can still fill their souls when the Chiefs are still going nowhere two to three years from now.

I know it's not GoChiefs because GoChiefs can actually make a decent photoshop.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

I'm not talking about Cassel, or any player, when I said "any QB for the sake of getting a QB."

You said its ironic that the crowd that loudly supported getting a QB because that's what winning teams do (paraphrase) is now upset that we got a QB, just not the one they wanted.

I was saying that it would be hard to find someone who just blindly wanted a QB, no matter who he is. The loud QB supporters wanted Stafford or Sanchez. Specifically.

Yeah, the team is taking a risk on a QB. But Cassel is a very different kind of QB acquisition. He's not as young nor is he considered to have the same ceiling. I just don't see what is ironic about desiring Stafford or Sanchez but panning the move to get Cassel.

I get what you're saying, but I don't agree with it. Because you're comparing it to what the idiots on this board say, and not what is actually happening. In Pioli's mind, he did just what everyone said he should do, acquire the best QB for this team. We just had thread after thread about how the "true fans" don't want a QB. I get what you're saying, but the reality is those aren't the only two guys in the history of the world that will be able to save this franchise.

And people can get on their high horse, but most of the complaining is simply because they hitched their wagon to Stafford or Sanchez months ago and couldn't get off the bus because it was moving too fast. They watched every game these guys played, evaluated their snaps, had thousands of posts about it, etc.. to make a detailed analysis on these guys, and we have some posters who have done a fine job of studying these guys. But in the matter of a couple days all that work got thrown out the window for nothing. But it's at least for a guy that our front office has scouted more thoroughly than anybody here has scouted any QB. Including college snaps, workouts, practices, etc.

You can say otherwise, but that never would've happened with Carl.

[Pioli Zombie]

Originally Posted by cdcox

Still haven't read this whole thread, so maybe this stuff has been mentioned, but two reasons I'm not wild about Cassel are:

1) The Pats won 5 less games with Cassel than with Brady. That is a lot.

2) Pittsburgh defense just destroyed him the week after he threw for 400 yards.

Cassel is a long way from being a franchise QB right now.

Brady would not have won 4 of the 5 games they lost the defense played horrid.

The Steelers stopped him. Think about what you said. The world champion Pittsburgh Steelers stopped him.
Oh he sucks then

And I've mentioned the patriots defense was awful in that game too
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[Pioli Zombie]

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Why don't you suck my balls, you half a bundle of sticks!

What's the other half?
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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

What's the other half?
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Tranny.

[tomahawk kid]

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Tranny.

DCS,

Did you have the beer I recommended earlier....

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by tomahawk kid

DCS,

Did you have the beer I recommended earlier....

What beer?

[tomahawk kid]

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

What beer?

After you threatened season / career ending injuries on Cassel, I recommend you take a deep breath, go have a beer and take some time for yourself.....