Is BJ Raji worth #3 overall? - Page 4

Direckshun · 03-02-2009, 01:48 AM

A gigantic nose tackle who can penetrate upfield?

Does Raji have what it takes to be a top five pick?

Thoughts.

keg in kc · 03-02-2009, 11:22 AM

As for Raji, he's about as boom and bust as you can get in this draft I think. He could be a great NT. And he could be out of the league in 2 or 3 years. Who the hell knows.

ChiefsCountry · 03-02-2009, 11:23 AM

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That whole thing really gets on my nerves...if this doesn't work I'm going to say a bunch of really nasty shit about him. Because he's already done 2 things I think aren't exactly smart.

Judging by the history of everybody connected to Parcells if Belichek isnt involved, we are screwed.

Orlandochiefsgrl · 03-02-2009, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

If I play Tiger Woods in match play, there's a decent chance that I could win one hole every now and then.

If I play HORSE against Jordan, there is a chance that I could get a letter on him.

It doesn't mean I'm better than either of them at their chosen professions.

You are and idiot. You would NEVER get that chance because you are NOT good enough to even be in the same room as either one without paying a fee. No idea of yours should EVER be considered by ANY pro. Not just against you, but you are an amatuer at best, so get off your high horse and come back down to earth with the rest of us. You sound like Dumb and Dumber, "So what your saying is there's a chance!"
"There is a chance I could INT a Peyton Manning pass"

No, there really isn't even that one chance!

Molitoth · 03-02-2009, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

As for Raji, he's about as boom and bust as you can get in this draft I think. He could be a great NT. And he could be out of the league in 2 or 3 years. Who the hell knows.

Everyone is either boom or bust in any draft.

Any Draft pick you take has a 50/50 chance at succeeding.

Thats why IMO it is best to take a Proven player over a non proven player.

Mecca · 03-02-2009, 11:28 AM

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Send him Mecca's guide to winning a Super Bowl... I'm sure that will put him in check.

Great the first one is, you don't trade for a 27 year old backup when you have the 3rd pick.

bdeg · 03-02-2009, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

Everyone is either boom or bust in any draft.

Any Draft pick you take has a 50/50 chance at succeeding.

Thats why IMO it is best to take a Proven player over a non proven player.

Deep stuff right there.

The only point you could possibly make with that argument is that the Cassell trade was a good one. Is that the point you were going for?

keg in kc · 03-02-2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

Everyone is either boom or bust in any draft.

Any Draft pick you take has a 50/50 chance at succeeding.

Thats why IMO it is best to take a Proven player over a non proven player.

There's going to be around 250 guys drafted in a couple months, and they don't all have a 50/50 shot at success. Higher picks have characteristics that give them a higher chance of success, and it's a pretty complicated matter of balancing risk versus reward to rank them incorporating college performance, character, physical attributes, strengths and weaknesses, et cetera.

Molitoth · 03-02-2009, 11:34 AM

A player is either successful or not.

50/50

Molitoth · 03-02-2009, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by bdeg

Deep stuff right there.

The only point you could possibly make with that argument is that the Cassell trade was a good one. Is that the point you were going for?

IMO it was a great trade, but I'm not here to try and convice the naysayers. It may work out to be a BAD trade... but we will not find out until next year.

keg in kc · 03-02-2009, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

A player is either successful or not.

50/50

Those are the possible results, not the percentage chance each result has of happening.

Molitoth · 03-02-2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Those are the possible results, not the percentage chance each result has of happening.

I see your point, and agree.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-02-2009, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Orlandochiefsgrl

You are and idiot. You would NEVER get that chance because you are NOT good enough to even be in the same room as either one without paying a fee. No idea of yours should EVER be considered by ANY pro. Not just against you, but you are an amatuer at best, so get off your high horse and come back down to earth with the rest of us. You sound like Dumb and Dumber, "So what your saying is there's a chance!"
"There is a chance I could INT a Peyton Manning pass"

No, there really isn't even that one chance!

I can't believe that you are so ****ing stupid that you can't understand the nuance of the situation that I'm talking about.

JFC. Look at the Pebble Beach Pro Am. Every year there are celebs who will do better than a given pro for a hole (even w/o handicap adjustment). Does it mean they are better golfers than them? Hell no. But they did perform better on that hole.

There would be times if I were bowling against PDW that I'd get a strike and he wouldn't. It doesn't make me a better bowler than him.

There are times on Jeopardy where you may know an answer that Ken Jennings doesn't. It doesn't make you smarter than him.

What it means is that no one is infallible and that no one's judgment should be beyond reproach.

This jackbooted hail-Pioli shit is ****ing ridiculous. FFS, look at the Patriots 2006 and 2007 drafts, the Warfield signing, the Colvin signing, the Beisel signing, among many, many others.

Mecca · 03-02-2009, 11:43 AM

hamas you should see the awesome argument going on in the Cassell Detroit thread.

Orlandochiefsgrl · 03-02-2009, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I can't believe that you are so ****ing stupid that you can't understand the nuance of the situation that I'm talking about.

JFC. Look at the Pebble Beach Pro Am. Every year there are celebs who will do better than a given pro for a hole (even w/o handicap adjustment). Does it mean they are better golfers than them? Hell no. But they did perform better on that hole.

There would be times if I were bowling against PDW that I'd get a strike and he wouldn't. It doesn't make me a better bowler than him.

There are times on Jeopardy where you may know an answer that Ken Jennings doesn't. It doesn't make you smarter than him.

What it means is that no one is infallible and that no one's judgment should be beyond reproach.

This jackbooted hail-Pioli shit is ****ing ridiculous. FFS, look at the Patriots 2006 and 2007 drafts, the Warfield signing, the Colvin signing, the Beisel signing, among many, many others.

You are the one that said there is a chance you could hang with Tiger ****ing Woods at golf, or Michael ****ing Jordan at Horse!
So, maybe the Chiefs should hire you, or you start a golfing or Basketball career. I bet there is a chance you just stick to posting stupid claims on the computer.

Mecca · 03-02-2009, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Orlandochiefsgrl

You are the one that said there is a chance you could hang with Tiger ****ing Woods at golf, or Michael ****ing Jordan at Horse!
So, maybe the Chiefs should hire you, or you start a golfing or Basketball career. I bet there is a chance you just stick to posting stupid claims on the computer.

I don't think you read what he said properly.

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