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Old 03-25-2009, 02:47 PM   #1
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I just wish they woulda kept Wiegman? Wiegman, Goff, and Waters would be a nice trio on the interior part of the line.
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Old 03-25-2009, 02:48 PM   #2
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whats wrong with Wiegman? Or that trio
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Old 03-25-2009, 02:50 PM   #3
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whats wrong with Wiegman? Or that trio
Collectively, they're more than a 100 years old.

No thanks.
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Old 03-25-2009, 02:52 PM   #4
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Collectively, they're more than a 100 years old.

No thanks.
What does that have to do with anything?

They're still productive players.
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Old 03-25-2009, 02:54 PM   #5
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What does that have to do with anything?

They're still productive players.
But how long before the wheels fall off?

Haven't you seen enough of that kind of shit with the Chiefs?
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Old 03-25-2009, 02:55 PM   #6
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But how long before the wheels fall off?

Haven't you seen enough of that kind of shit with the Chiefs?
I'd rather TRY with guys like that and have the wheels fall off than do what we did last year and never take the training wheels off.
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Old 03-25-2009, 03:03 PM   #7
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I'd rather TRY with guys like that and have the wheels fall off than do what we did last year and never take the training wheels off.
I'm not sure I follow. The wheels had fallen off in 2006, yet Carl did nothing.

Albert, Niswanger & Taylor all saw a considerable amount of time. Sackintosh was another "old timer" signed by Carl that sucked. Alias Smith & Jones are both fairly young but they ****ing blow.

Keeping Weigeman around at age 36 wouldn't have exactly solved the offensive line woes.

The Chiefs failed to draft any offensive lineman one day one for nearly a decade. That's how the line came to suck.
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But how long before the wheels fall off?

Haven't you seen enough of that kind of shit with the Chiefs?
Im convinced O-lineman can play into their mid 30's.

I've seen this shit with the Chiefs, and when they lost Roaf, wiegman, and Shields the line went to complete shits. But I also think the Oline sucked for various other reasons. Our coaching sucked, playcalling was too predictable, and they asked lineman to do things that did not comply to strengths.

*I realize this team has a lot of young players, but you get some veterans, bring more balance of veteran leadership and youth. I don't mind these kind of signings because they add something this team doesn't have enough of.
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Old 03-25-2009, 03:02 PM   #9
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Im convinced O-lineman can play into their mid 30's.

I've seen this shit with the Chiefs, and when they lost Roaf, wiegman, and Shields the line went to complete shits. But I also think the Oline sucked for various other reasons. Our coaching sucked, playcalling was too predictable, and they asked lineman to do things that did not comply to strengths.

*I realize this team has a lot of young players, but you get some veterans, bring more balance of veteran leadership and youth. I don't mind these kind of signings because they add something this team doesn't have enough of.
And if you couple them with 1-3 Offensive Linemen in this year's draft you kill two birds with one stone.
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Im convinced O-lineman can play into their mid 30's.

I've seen this shit with the Chiefs, and when they lost Roaf, wiegman, and Shields the line went to complete shits. But I also think the Oline sucked for various other reasons. Our coaching sucked, playcalling was too predictable, and they asked lineman to do things that did not comply to strengths.

*I realize this team has a lot of young players, but you get some veterans, bring more balance of veteran leadership and youth. I don't mind these kind of signings because they add something this team doesn't have enough of.
I'm sorry, I fully disagree.

Sackintosh isn't going to be competent left or right tackle ever. I don't give a **** who's coaching the line. Niswanger is a backup guard at best, Jones & Smith simply can't play and there's no depth beyond Taylor.

You cannot "coach up" guys that don't have talent.
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Old 03-25-2009, 02:53 PM   #11
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Collectively, they're more than a 100 years old.

No thanks.
Good point.
Though short term I think it'd be a damn solid interior line to protect your 14 million-dollar man.

You could give your young draftees time to work their way in.
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Good point.
Though short term I think it'd be a damn solid interior line to protect your 14 million-dollar man.

You could give your young draftees time to work their way in.
It appears that the Chiefs are doing just that in re-signing Niswanger and signing Goff.
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It appears that the Chiefs are doing just that in re-signing Niswanger and signing Goff.
Niswanger's a serviceable player and would be great as depth.
I don't think he's a starter with a bullet this season.
Especially since he's not ideal at Center and since Goff's been signed.

And again, there are some very talented Centers in this year's draft class.
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