Larry Johnson loses Grievance

[Frankie]

Per profootballtalk.com

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/...teed-salaries/

Larry Johnson Loses Grievance On Future Guaranteed Salaries
Posted by Mike Florio on April 6, 2009, 1:11 p.m. EDT

The good news for NFL players coming out of last week’s combined Plaxico Burress/Larry Johnson grievance is that the forfeiture of signing bonus money has been significantly limited.

The bad news for NFL players is that Special Master Richard Burbank upheld player contract language invalidating future guaranteed base salaries.

Per a league source, Johnson’s grievance failed as to the question of whether the Chiefs are permitted to erase $3.5 million in guaranteed base salary due in 2009 and $250,000 in guaranteed base salary due in 2010 based on Johnson’s one-game suspension in 2008 for violation of the personal conduct policy.

With the future guaranteed payments now off the books, the Chiefs are expected to cut or trade Johnson.

Meanwhile, we’re told that Johnson’s grievance prevailed as to the partial forfeiture of his signing bonus allocation applicable to 2008, for the same reasons that the Burress grievance prevailed on that point — according to Burbank, suspensions don’t trigger a forfeiture of signing bonus money.


(Sorry if repost.)

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

That's the thing, mic.

When he DOES catch the ball, he's effective.

But I'd love to see the number of drops he's had.

He's had some drops to be sure, but let's not pretend he hasn't also made things happen catching the rock.

[Crush]

Originally Posted by Micjones

Yeah, we'll teach those self-serving bastards by robbing an already volatile offense of more weapons.

When you want to change the culture of a team, you must either get rid of or change the dynamics of the team leadership. I am tired of this franchise catering to players. That kind of attitude is the reason why this franchise has won 0 playoff games since January 16th, 1994.

[Johnny Vegas]

I think all you guys are missing something. This is just a football game with players. Its our fault these guys get paid the amount they do. We buy the seats, the games on tv, the merchandise online/at games/in stores. Money is louder than words so if you really don't want to see these players get the money you think they don't deserve then quit watching/supporting the game itself.

[Crush]

Originally Posted by badmajama

I think all you guys are missing something. This is just a football game with players. Its our fault these guys get paid the amount they do. We buy the seats, the games on tv, the merchandise online/at games/in stores. Money is louder than words so if you really don't want to see these players get the money you think they don't deserve then quit watching/supporting the game itself.

It is not about the money. I just do not want these jackasses on my football team.

[Johnny Vegas]

Originally Posted by Crush

It is not about the money. I just do not want these jackasses on my football team.

well they're just players who are only human. The times of players fearing coaches are over with because of the million dollar contract.

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by Crush

When you want to change the culture of a team, you must either get rid of or change the dynamics of the team leadership.

Understood, but to think there will ever be a lockerroom full of guys like Will Shields is to be dishonest with the dynamic of today's NFL.

I am tired of this franchise catering to players. That kind of attitude is the reason why this franchise has won 0 playoff games since January 16th, 1994.

Even under the last administration I can't say Chiefs brass CATERED to players.

Edwards did massage players a bit more than, say, Vermeil...
But that's just who he is as a coach.

The reason we haven't won playoff games since 1994 is currently vacationing somewhere on an island.

It's not about attitude. It's about how this franchise was run.

[tonyetony]

Originally Posted by Crush

I will say this as well. Tony better and stop his self-absorbed BS or he will also find himself on the cutting block.

If the Chiefs plan on trading Tony G then I hope they package LJ with him to someone that has a lot of draft picks that need a RB and a tight end. Philly might be willing to deal before the draft but most teams are going to stand pat until after the draft at this point.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Micjones

Edwards did massage players a bit more than, say, Vermeil...
But that's just who he is as a coach.

And everyone knows, Dick loves the massage! That really says something about Herman.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by EyePod

I don't understand this. He is not a quitter. He ran amazingly for us last year after he was suspended. He showed up to VOLUNTARY workouts. Must be a quitter. What a bunch of ****ing bullshit.

he's a selfish quitter

he won't block

he pouts

he was in trouble several times for being late, which shows disrespect to the coach and your teammates...

he has never - EVER - given a shit about the team...he is absolutely part of the problem with the culture of this franchise...can't wait till he is gone

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

he's a selfish quitter

he won't block

he pouts

he was in trouble several times for being late, which shows disrespect to the coach and your teammates...

he has never - EVER - given a shit about the team...he is absolutely part of the problem with the culture of this franchise...can't wait till he is gone

Indeed.

[Wa-Z]

Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey

whatever back at you, when it's a full bar, busy as shit 11pm on a friday night, and the little bitches that always order the carrot cake tini and give you exact change in quarters, nickels and dimes; do not get the same attention as the 28 year old drinking chivas on the rocks and tips 1-2 dollars everytime he orders.

I think every rational person agrees..if not you're just plain stupid lol..(Hootie)

[wild1]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

he's a selfish quitter

he won't block

he pouts

he was in trouble several times for being late, which shows disrespect to the coach and your teammates...

he has never - EVER - given a shit about the team...he is absolutely part of the problem with the culture of this franchise...can't wait till he is gone

Carl, Herm and, Larry Johnson ARE the old culture.

The old culture was an alternating cycle of mediocrity and futility. A culture of failure, coddling of star players, double standards, cronyism, underachievement, complacency.


It is understandable that some people have separation anxiety from the Chiefs organization they knew and loved and were constantly being reassured was on top of the situation.

Wait, no it's not.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by tonyetony

If the Chiefs plan on trading Tony G then I hope they package LJ with him to someone that has a lot of draft picks that need a RB and a tight end. Philly might be willing to deal before the draft but most teams are going to stand pat until after the draft at this point.

I could see this going until draft day with Philadelphia. They probably would want to make sure the top 2 LT's don't go off the board at #1 and #2 before they make the trade up that high.

And from what I understand, the money to LJ is only saved by the Chiefs if he is cut or traded. If he plays for the Chiefs, he gets the money. If that is correct, there is really no reason to release LJ before the draft. See if you can get some value by a trade. And also see if a 1st string RB can be drafted to replace LJ before he is just let go.

Hedge your bets so to speak, and keep all options open for now.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Wa-Z

Considering he's a multi-millionaire that's a terrible tip...and taxes were probably around $6 making the net total around $79 and 15% of that would be around $12..service is not in question...Sullivans Steak House

So by this logic I should be tipping like 5% because I don't have jack shit for money...but I tip 20-30% every time because I'm a good tipper...some people tip well, some people don't...$10 on $79...lets just say it could be a whole lot worse...and that's really not anything to scoff at.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey

whatever back at you, when it's a full bar, busy as shit 11pm on a friday night, and the little bitches that always order the carrot cake tini and give you exact change in quarters, nickels and dimes; do not get the same attention as the 28 year old drinking chivas on the rocks and tips 1-2 dollars everytime he orders.

Bartending is totally different.

You can ignore anyone you want and still make a shit ton of money what it's busy...so yeah, you're right...if I was bartending and the bitches weren't tipping, I'm going to them as little as possible.