Chiefs Update on Chiefs' Training Camp: "Glitch" in move to St. Joe - Page 3

T-post Tom · 04-06-2009, 09:21 PM

Chiefs deal hitting some friction
by Alyson E. Raletz
Monday, April 6, 2009

The Missouri Department of Economic Development could be using its weight to bring negotiations between the Kansas City Chiefs and Missouri Western State University to a close.

The Associated Press tonight is reporting that a “glitch has arisen in the Kansas City Chiefs' plans to move their training facility from Wisconsin to Missouri in exchange for state tax credits.”

At issue is the $25 million state tax credit proposal the Missouri Development Finance Board approved in December for the Chiefs, who agreed to turn over $10 million to Western for an indoor practice stadium. Former Gov. Matt Blunt and three state department directors signed off on the deal, which holds the Chiefs to keeping its camp in St. Joseph for five years.

The original proposal from the Chiefs and the Jackson County Sports Authority would move its camp from River Falls, Wis., to St. Joseph for five years beginning in 2010 with five one-year renewal options after that for a possible commitment of up to 10 years.

The News-Press in late March reported that Chiefs and Western officials still were amidst negotiations on the camp’s operating agreement and who would pony up the $2 million in tax credit fees.

Lt. Gov. Peter Kinder, chairman of the finance board, at the time said he believed the project was in jeopardy as a result.

Apparently, the Department of Economic Development is stepping in.

“But a spokesman (of) the Missouri Department of Economic Development said Monday that no tax credits will be issued until the Chiefs commit to keeping their camp in Missouri for 10 years. Spokesman John Fougere (foo-ZHAYR') says that was the original intent of the Missouri Development Finance Board,” according to the AP.

Sen. Charlie Shields, R-St. Joseph, told the News-Press that Western-Chiefs negotiations were near completion after a meeting with Economic Development Director Linda Martinez Monday night in his office and he didn’t believe the project was in danger.

“I think we’re very close to having this thing put together,” Mr. Shields said.

He said if Western agrees to a five-year contract with five one-year options, then the contract again will go before the finance board.

However, he questioned whether the board could prevent the issuance of the credits if the Chiefs didn’t agree to a straight 10-year commitment.

“As long as it meets the elements of what it voted on (in December), then it’s good to go,” Mr. Shields said.

A spokesman for Mr. Kinder said the Chiefs intend on a 10-year commitment to St. Joseph, but the five one-year options were included to protect all parties involved, particularly the university.

“These efforts by the department could put this project in jeopardy,” Gary McElyea said.

Demonpenz · 04-07-2009, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

This would be a heatbreaker (to me) if this fell through.... I could literally walk to Training camp everyday if I wanted to.

St. Joe has really any food you could want (minus seafood) Claythan.... the whole Belt Hwy (main strip through town) is basically car lots and Food joints.

There is a few decent brand new Hotels (Stoney Creek, Hampton, and a Remodeled Ramada) very close by.

Basically the bar scene in St. Joe sucks though.... really bad. Horrible bars. If you wanna drink, go to a restuarant.

Dude Snakebite!

**Nzoner** · 04-07-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

This would be a heatbreaker (to me) if this fell through.... I could literally walk to Training camp everyday if I wanted to.

St. Joe has really any food you could want (minus seafood) Claythan.... the whole Belt Hwy (main strip through town) is basically car lots and Food joints.

There is a few decent brand new Hotels (Stoney Creek, Hampton, and a Remodeled Ramada) very close by.

Basically the bar scene in St. Joe sucks though.... really bad. Horrible bars. If you wanna drink, go to a restuarant.

It would be a heartbreaker for a lot of local business as well,personally I just want to see training camp for a Missouri team in a Missouri city and quit watching the dollars go to Wisconsin.

St Joe is not near as bad as a few have made it out to be and having been to River Falls it's a helluva lot better than that place with way better restaurants and lodging.

Having TC in a Missouri city(whichever one) may not be a vacation if you will but at least we'd be supporting a good percentage of local business with our tourism dollars.

**Reaper16** · 04-07-2009, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner

It would be a heartbreaker for a lot of local business as well,personally I just want to see training camp for a Missouri team in a Missouri city and quit watching the dollars go to Wisconsin.

St Joe is not near as bad as a few have made it out to be and having been to River Falls it's a helluva lot better than that place with way better restaurants and lodging.

Having TC in a Missouri city(whichever one) may not be a vacation if you will but at least we'd be supporting a good percentage of local business with our tourism dollars.

I'd love for camp to be in a MO city, as long as that city is not privy to an MIAA school.

**Nzoner** · 04-07-2009, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

I'd love for camp to be in a MO city, as long as that city is not privy to an MIAA school.

Your concern is a valid one,sure beats the hell out of "it's too hot"

cmh6476 · 04-07-2009, 08:14 PM

We've got it all:

Mexican: Chipotle
Italian: Fazoli's
Seafood: Red Lobster
Chinese: Panda Express

Molitoth · 04-07-2009, 08:16 PM

SO basically KK had the ex Gov on to rectify the situation. He says that the contract states that the chiefs HAVE to be at MWSU for 5 years, and then there is a 1 year at a time agreement after that. (Basically meaning the chiefs could opt out IF MWSU lets the facilities go to crap after 5 years). The Chiefs would HAVE to keep training camp IN Missouri for 10 years.

The new Gov can eat a dick, that piece of shit.

Pablo · 04-07-2009, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476

We've got it all:

Mexican: Chipotle
Italian: Fazoli's
Seafood: Red Lobster
Chinese: Panda Express

St. Joe is like the fast food/restaurant capitol of the world. It's ****ing ridiculous. I think everyone in this town spends every penny of their disposable income on eating out.

Pablo · 04-07-2009, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

Dude Snakebite!

Haha..Snakebite has to be the worst fucking bar in the world.

It's terrible man. I went in their once a long ass time ago...maybe it wasn't the Snakebite back then..but whatever it was sucked hard.

Molitoth · 04-07-2009, 08:19 PM

The Tap Room is actually a great bar, I forgot about it.

Clean, Classy, New, Smoke Free, Good Location.

Pablo · 04-07-2009, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

I'd love for camp to be in a MO city, as long as that city is not privy to an MIAA school.

Hells yeah. Time for some top notch facilities for the good guys from Joe Town.

I mean, don't you NWMSU guys get tired of kicking the dogshit out of us every year?

Pablo · 04-07-2009, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

The Tap Room is actually a great bar, I forgot about it.

I went in there once.

The manager/wtf ever was telling me about how they have a great food selection, and then some black dude was out in the foyer shining shoes for $7.

"Yeah man, just bring whatever shoes in you want shined..bring in 10 at a time, he'll shine 'em all".

And the TapRoom was waaaaaaaayyy better when it was Manchesters and they had $10 all you can drink nights. You wanna talk about a packed ass bar..

Molitoth · 04-07-2009, 08:22 PM

Ya, that shoe shine thing was sooo weird... I don't think it's there anymore.

Pablo · 04-07-2009, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

Ya, that shoe shine thing was sooo weird... I don't think it's there anymore.

The really weird part is that they're also a limo rental/car consignment lot.

I just go to The First Ward or Kelly's.

cmh6476 · 04-07-2009, 08:24 PM

also, the real answer is Boudreaux's, Barbosa's, Galvin's Dinnerhouse, La Dolce Vita @ 36th St, Hunan's, Hoof and Horn, and I'm probably missing a couple others.

Molitoth · 04-07-2009, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmh6476

also, the real answer is Boudreaux's, Barbosa's, Galvin's Dinnerhouse, La Dolce Vita @ 36th St, Hunan's, Hoof and Horn, and I'm probably missing a couple others.

Yes, those are the Higher End (great Food) restaurants of the city.

04-06-2009, 09:21 PM
T-post Tom Threepeat! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland Casino cash: $4377293	Update on Chiefs' Training Camp: "Glitch" in move to St. Joe Chiefs deal hitting some friction by Alyson E. Raletz Monday, April 6, 2009 The Missouri Department of Economic Development could be using its weight to bring negotiations between the Kansas City Chiefs and Missouri Western State University to a close. The Associated Press tonight is reporting that a “glitch has arisen in the Kansas City Chiefs' plans to move their training facility from Wisconsin to Missouri in exchange for state tax credits.” At issue is the $25 million state tax credit proposal the Missouri Development Finance Board approved in December for the Chiefs, who agreed to turn over $10 million to Western for an indoor practice stadium. Former Gov. Matt Blunt and three state department directors signed off on the deal, which holds the Chiefs to keeping its camp in St. Joseph for five years. The original proposal from the Chiefs and the Jackson County Sports Authority would move its camp from River Falls, Wis., to St. Joseph for five years beginning in 2010 with five one-year renewal options after that for a possible commitment of up to 10 years. The News-Press in late March reported that Chiefs and Western officials still were amidst negotiations on the camp’s operating agreement and who would pony up the $2 million in tax credit fees. Lt. Gov. Peter Kinder, chairman of the finance board, at the time said he believed the project was in jeopardy as a result. Apparently, the Department of Economic Development is stepping in. “But a spokesman (of) the Missouri Department of Economic Development said Monday that no tax credits will be issued until the Chiefs commit to keeping their camp in Missouri for 10 years. Spokesman John Fougere (foo-ZHAYR') says that was the original intent of the Missouri Development Finance Board,” according to the AP. Sen. Charlie Shields, R-St. Joseph, told the News-Press that Western-Chiefs negotiations were near completion after a meeting with Economic Development Director Linda Martinez Monday night in his office and he didn’t believe the project was in danger. “I think we’re very close to having this thing put together,” Mr. Shields said. He said if Western agrees to a five-year contract with five one-year options, then the contract again will go before the finance board. However, he questioned whether the board could prevent the issuance of the credits if the Chiefs didn’t agree to a straight 10-year commitment. “As long as it meets the elements of what it voted on (in December), then it’s good to go,” Mr. Shields said. A spokesman for Mr. Kinder said the Chiefs intend on a 10-year commitment to St. Joseph, but the five one-year options were included to protect all parties involved, particularly the university. “These efforts by the department could put this project in jeopardy,” Gary McElyea said.
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04-07-2009, 08:14 PM	#35
cmh6476 Keep Camp Home! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: St Joe MO Casino cash: $2396277	We've got it all: Mexican: Chipotle Italian: Fazoli's Seafood: Red Lobster Chinese: Panda Express __________________ from September to February! from November to April! from April to October! 2024 Adopt-a-Chief: Xavier Worthy
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04-07-2009, 08:16 PM	#36
Molitoth Mahomes Fanboi Join Date: Apr 2004 Casino cash: $2794969	SO basically KK had the ex Gov on to rectify the situation. He says that the contract states that the chiefs HAVE to be at MWSU for 5 years, and then there is a 1 year at a time agreement after that. (Basically meaning the chiefs could opt out IF MWSU lets the facilities go to crap after 5 years). The Chiefs would HAVE to keep training camp IN Missouri for 10 years. The new Gov can eat a dick, that piece of shit.
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Molitoth Mahomes Fanboi Join Date: Apr 2004 Casino cash: $2794969	The Tap Room is actually a great bar, I forgot about it. Clean, Classy, New, Smoke Free, Good Location.
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Molitoth Mahomes Fanboi Join Date: Apr 2004 Casino cash: $2794969	Ya, that shoe shine thing was sooo weird... I don't think it's there anymore.
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04-07-2009, 08:24 PM	#44
cmh6476 Keep Camp Home! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: St Joe MO Casino cash: $2396277	also, the real answer is Boudreaux's, Barbosa's, Galvin's Dinnerhouse, La Dolce Vita @ 36th St, Hunan's, Hoof and Horn, and I'm probably missing a couple others. __________________ from September to February! from November to April! from April to October! 2024 Adopt-a-Chief: Xavier Worthy
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