Chiefs Cassel or Sanchez? - Page 14

KCBOSS1 · 04-11-2009, 06:45 PM

I realize that we are where we are, but the more I see about Sanchez, the more I'm afraid that a few years down the road, we may look back and realize that we passed up on the franchise guy that we've been looking for. I know that Cassel played ok last year, but is he a franchise guy? ...likely not. Thoughts?

Mecca · 04-11-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KCBOSS1

#3 is too high of a pick for a nose tackle. It's got to be a game changer type player risk to me, or franchise left tackle, which we may already have like some have said. Curry is a game changer type athlete.

Rajis position is much more valuable to the 3-4 than Currys is.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-11-2009, 08:55 PM

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"Would you rather have your arm cut off? Or melted off?"

Neither option is good.

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And we didn't win squat with Green and that line.

I'm not interested in building a good team. I'm interested in building a championship team.

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Originally Posted by milkman

Great QBs transcend systems.

Joe Montana may not have been as great if not in San Farn, but we saw what he did for the Chiefs in his short time there.

Tom Brady has evolved as the system in NE has evolved.

Give me a great QB and I'll take my chances, regardless of system.

THESE.

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

It's a reach to pick any 3-4 ILB in the top 5. I don't understand why people think Curry is a no-brainer. The Chiefs are obviously transitioning into a 3-4 and will probably play it exclusively within the next 2-3 years. Curry is a borderline top 5 pick in a 4-3, but he's an enormous reach in a 3-4.

I realize the options are limited. But I think you get a lot better value with an average nose tackle like Raji or an average 3-4 OLB like Everett Brown than you do with a terrific 3-4 ILB like Curry.

The Lord and Savior Jesus Curry is now off of the Chiefs board, and is of no consequence.

Never really was either.

KCBOSS1 · 04-11-2009, 08:56 PM

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Uhhhh you're almost 200 comments late to chime in with that one. but thanks.

milkman · 04-11-2009, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KCBOSS1

#3 is too high of a pick for a nose tackle. It's got to be a game changer type player risk to me, or franchise left tackle, which we may already have like some have said. Curry is a game changer type athlete.

Bullshit.

ILBs are not game changers.

Thanks for playing.

Try again.

KCBOSS1 · 04-11-2009, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

I see the talent. But think he's over rated. Phillip Rivers should have went to the pro bowl in his place. But there's no doubt Cutler has talent. If he can get his ego under control, you may very well be right. If not, he'll self destruct.

You are definitely right about both of those points.

EyePod · 04-11-2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I think it's pretty simple, anyone who takes time to watch Sanchez and learn about him will love the guy. He has everything you look for in a QB in the intangibles area, he's as sound as they come with his mechanics and quick release and feet..

The only arguments against him are "he's short" and " he started 16 games" and of course for anyone that watched him play he doesn't remotely look like a 1 year starter.

This doesn't matter. You pick one guy and look only at his positives. You looked at Tyler Thigpen and continually said that he was too short to be an NFL QB. He's 6'1". Your Mark "I WANT TO LICK YOUR TESTICLES-From Mecca" Sanchez is a whole inch taller.

He started 16 games.

This is my biggest detraction against him. This is one of the most statistically relevant things for a QB coming out of college. He needs to improve completion percentage each season, and start at least 3 seasons in college to have a much better chance to succeed in the NFL. This is a fact, and anyone who goes against this is an anomaly.

**DeezNutz** · 04-11-2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KCBOSS1

#3 is too high of a pick for a nose tackle. It's got to be a game changer type player risk to me, or franchise left tackle, which we may already have like some have said. Curry is a game changer type athlete.

Assuming we're headed toward running the 3-4, what do you think a DT in this scheme is?

KCBOSS1 · 04-11-2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Bullshit.

ILBs are not game changers.

Thanks for playing.

Try again.

You still here? I thought you were bored with comment #2. Thanks for still playing.

EyePod · 04-11-2009, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

I see the talent. But think he's over rated. Phillip Rivers should have went to the pro bowl in his place. But there's no doubt Cutler has talent. If he can get his ego under control, you may very well be right. If not, he'll self destruct.

But damn do I love thinking about that tool bag getting snubbed. What an ass-hat. I hate Phil Rivers a lot.

CrazyHorse · 04-11-2009, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Bullshit.

ILBs are not game changers.

Thanks for playing.

Try again.

He may not have him pigeon holed as an ILB.

And any player can be a game changer. To say any different is short sighted.

Mecca · 04-11-2009, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by EyePod

This doesn't matter. You pick one guy and look only at his positives. You looked at Tyler Thigpen and continually said that he was too short to be an NFL QB. He's 6'1". Your Mark "I WANT TO LICK YOUR TESTICLES-From Mecca" Sanchez is a whole inch taller.

He started 16 games.

This is my biggest detraction against him. This is one of the most statistically relevant things for a QB coming out of college. He needs to improve completion percentage each season, and start at least 3 seasons in college to have a much better chance to succeed in the NFL. This is a fact, and anyone who goes against this is an anomaly.

Are you saying Mark Sanchez has bad completion percentage numbers...

Mecca · 04-11-2009, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

He may not have him pigeon holed as an ILB.

And any player can be a game changer. To say any different is short sighted.

And here we are again with this whole Curry can play outside crap.

Pioli Zombie · 04-11-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Rajis position is much more valuable to the 3-4 than Currys is.

Excuse the tired cliche but
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milkman · 04-11-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KCBOSS1

You still here? I thought you were bored with comment #2. Thanks for still playing.

I didn't say I was bored with.

My comment had to do with the way you presented as a whole new ****ing idea.

My comment had to do with the fact that your revelation was so important that you had to start a new thread to let everyone know that one of your brain cells finally clicked on.

chiefzilla1501 · 04-11-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Assuming we're headed toward running the 3-4, what do you think a DT in this scheme is?

That confuses me too.

The nose tackle is the most important defender in a 3-4. The reason they're not picked higher is usually because most teams will never let a good nose tackle go, and because only a fraction of teams actually run a 3-4.

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