Cassel or Sanchez?

[KCBOSS1]

I realize that we are where we are, but the more I see about Sanchez, the more I'm afraid that a few years down the road, we may look back and realize that we passed up on the franchise guy that we've been looking for. I know that Cassel played ok last year, but is he a franchise guy? ...likely not. Thoughts?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I'm surprised that the majority of the Curry folks haven't just stuck with the, "It's a weak class and I think he's going to be a tremendous ILB" argument.

At least this has validity, draft history be damned.

How DARE YOU mock the awesomeness of the Lord Our God Jesus Curry!

[Messier]

Originally Posted by Mecca

That really isn't the reason to use a top 3 pick on someone that's like going "Lets take a OT if he sucks atleast he can play guard"

He won't play inside on a 4-3.

[Messier]

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

How DARE YOU mock the awesomeness of the Lord Our God Jesus Curry!

Blasphemer! Sanchez is the true Saviour.

[Messier]

Look, I don't even care that much about Curry. I do think he's the best player in the draft, but really I hope we trade down.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

But we do know he can get in the backfield. We know he can cover. We know he has more speed than a conventional DE convert.

What does history say about those guys?

Size is generally the reason that guys dont convert from OLB to 3-4 OLB. Size is not he issue with Curry. He posses the size and strength to make the transition.

What if we dont run an exclusive 3-4 scheme?

And again, there's a distinct difference between rushing the passer every once in a while to having it being one of your main responsibilities. Curry rushed the passer purely as an element of surprise. In a 3-4, he'd essentially be your main source of pressure--the defensive line (2 DEs and NT) are responsible for engaging blockers, not rushing the passer. Again, you're saying that Curry will be a very good pass rusher because he did so on occasion in college is like saying that Noshawn Moreno will be an outstanding #1 WR because he caught passes well on occasion. Curry can rush the passer, but it is not considered one of his strengths. And he doesn't have NEARLY the experience as, say, Aaron Maybin or Everett Brown. And that's important because like I said, rushing the passer and shedding blocks in the trenches is far more important than playing more traditional OLB roles like pass coverage.

As for whether we run a 3-4 exclusively, unless you think the Chiefs will build a defense with personnel from 2 defenses, then you can believe that the Chiefs will run a hybrid D forever. They are only running a hybrid because they can't turn a 4-3 into a 3-4 overnight. It's hard enough to build one defense, let alone 2.

[tonyetony]

Zach Thomas and Beisel are inside with DJ and Vrabel on the outside if we run a 3-4 this year. If we can trade down and get Raji or Brown I'll be happy, especially if we pick up a 2nd rounder and address right tackle.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by wild1

Gee, I was hoping someone would start a thread about this

And I bet your pappy always told you wished never came true, didn't he?

[Dylan]

Wow... 19 pages. that was quick... lol

I'm sure this was discussed. Here's why I like Cassel:

Belichick was coming off a tumultuous season from dealing with questions on spygate, when Brady goes down with a season injury. There's no doubt the biggest question facing Belichick from the media -- "Can you win without Brady?" (You were all reading the same headlines... lol ).

Cassel had to be under tremendous pressure dealing with media questions that come with questions, whether he's a career backup or future franchise player. Who would expect the Patriots to go as far as they did. According to the media, 2008 proved to be Belichick's best coaching job of his career. I have to agree.


There is no question a QB will be better when he plays for a talented offense. Then again, QBs generally have less than spectacular years. Looking over the team's game stats, Cassel was stacked 47 times, while Thigpen was sacked 26. Cassel put up some good numbers. Considering, he was successful in 1st and 3rd down situations -- solid in the redzone -- He had a low turnover rate. In addition, he had game winning TDs.

I can see why NE fans were unhappy losing him -- Cassel moved the offense.

Hope you found your guy.


Passes Completed, Rank

2008 NFL 327 (9-- 85)
Pass Attempts

2008 NFL 516 (9)
Passing Yds

2008 NFL 3693 (8)
Passing TD

2008 NFL 21 (10)

Passer Rating

2008 NFL 89.4 (10)
Sacked

2008 NFL 47 (1-- 60)
Sacked Yds Lost

2008 NFL 219 (7)
Passing Yds/Game

2008 NFL 230.8 (10)

Pass Intercept. %

2008 NFL 2.1% (7)

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...Ma00_games.htm

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I hope I never hear about Aaron Curry again, either that or I'm going to laugh my ass off when he's playing ILB and getting no sacks and people are going "why isn't he outside rushing the passer!"

Shit. I'd be ecstatic if that was the case. Like this team couldn't use a decent ILB. And that gives us an excuse to go after Selvie next year.

And if this franchise could get another Willie Lanier, I'm not going to complain at all. Zero. Nada. Nilch. Nyet. Nein. (And if you want to talk about comparing players, Curry and Lanier have got a lot in common in their game and on the field make up.)

[Hammock Parties]

Dylan...can you describe Cassel's mobility? I know he has surprising mobility for a 230-pound, 6-foot-4 QB.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

What are the correct times of the morning and afternoon to pray to Matt Cassel, and is a gesture of supplication required?

[tonyetony]

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

What are the correct times of the morning and afternoon to pray to Matt Cassel, and is a gesture of supplication required?

Quit bro. We know you and Mecca suck Sanchez all day and everyday.....we get it.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

If and when I meet Matt Cassel, do I address him as "Your Holiness" or "Most High"?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

If and when I meet Matt Cassel, do I address him as "Your Holiness" or "Most High"?

You do not talk to Matt Cassel. He communicates exclusively via pure thought. This is why he has such good chemistry with his receivers.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Yes. It all makes perfect sense now. Am I allowed to make eye contact?