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Old 04-12-2009, 07:20 AM  
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Whitlock comes down on LJ hard, supports Waters
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Chiefs need to get this right: Boot LJ, keep Waters


There’s no reason to believe Larry Johnson or his new agent.

The moody running back, in the pursuit of the remaining millions left on his contract, claims — through his agent — he wants nothing more than to be a productive runner for the Kansas City Chiefs in 2009.

He made the same claims before the start of the 2007 season, when he was trying to secure a lucrative contract extension. Carl Peterson fell for Johnson’s kind words and made Johnson the highest-paid Chief.

Scott Pioli should go ahead and release Johnson now. If somehow Kansas City’s new general manager is able to trade Johnson for anything — chinstrap, mouthpiece, blocking dummy, a jockstrap to be named later — Pioli would have to be an early candidate for NFL executive of the year.

Johnson has no trade value. He refuses to block. He’s an unreliable runner. He has a bad attitude. His best years are long gone. A team would be foolish to trade for Johnson.

Why not just wait for the Chiefs to release Johnson?

If the Chiefs hold on to Johnson and he makes their season-opening roster, which would re-guarantee his contract, then we’ll have our second legitimate reason to question the decision-making of the Chiefs’ new leadership.

For those of you with short memories, our first legitimate reason was Pioli and Todd Haley’s handling of their first meeting with Pro Bowl guard Brian Waters.

This is one of the most underplayed stories of the NFL offseason. Waters is Kansas City’s version of Jay Cutler. After brief and abrasive encounters with Pioli and Haley, Waters demanded his release from the Chiefs.

Obviously, Waters isn’t as high-profile as a Pro Bowl quarterback, so the national media have ignored his dissatisfaction.

But Waters’ troubles hint at a bigger trend: The arrogance of the young lieutenants coming off the Bill Belichick tree and whether they’ve made mistakes that damaged their new franchises.

Denver coach Josh McDaniels, the 32-year-old former Patriots offensive coordinator, cost the Broncos an in-his-prime franchise quarterback by foolishly attempting to trade for Matt Cassel.

Pioli, Belichick’s former right hand, may cost Kansas City its best lineman by foolishly implementing his my-way-or-the-highway approach to diplomacy. Pioli and Haley needlessly played rough with a valuable asset.

Of course, the whole thing could blow over during the offseason and Waters could return to his role as locker-room leader by training camp. But right now, we don’t know where the standoff stands. Waters represents himself and isn’t talking. Pioli and Haley don’t like to talk about sensitive issues.

We’re left to speculate.

Maybe the Chiefs could package Waters and Johnson in a draft-day trade, if there’s a player on the board in the second or third round that the club really likes.

It’s difficult for me to envision a scenario that would have Johnson on the Chiefs’ 2009 roster. It’s equally difficult for me to see Pioli taking the necessary, pride-swallowing steps to fix the team’s issue with Waters.

Brian Waters can be reasoned with. He’s a student of the game.

Don’t read anything into what I’m about to say. I have not talked with Brian Waters or anyone close to him recently. I’m basing my opinion on what I’ve learned about Brian over his nine years on the Chiefs.

He can be easily persuaded to get on board with what Pioli and Haley are trying to accomplish. Waters simply needs to be recruited and given the level of respect his consistent play and off-field professionalism demand.

Does Mike Vrabel’s success in New England dictate he gets more respect in Kansas City than Brian Waters? Not in my opinion.

According to Cassel’s statement to the media shortly after being traded to KC, Pioli had an open-door policy with players in New England. You got the impression Pioli liked to chat up key personnel and get them on board with the club’s philosophy.

His handling of Waters created the impression of a young person on an immature power trip. General managers don’t win football games. Good football players and coaches do. You do whatever is necessary to retain the good ones, and you dump the Larry Johnsons of the world the first chance you get.
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Old 04-12-2009, 02:58 PM   #61
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Well lets understand he teamed with this guy...
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Reminds me of a poor man's LT than anything...if he packed on 10 lbs.
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We're talking about a guy who's gonna go in the 3rd or 4th round...it's not like going "hey lets take one in the 1st"
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We're talking about a guy who's gonna go in the 3rd or 4th round...it's not like going "hey lets take one in the 1st"
I'm just saying, I doubt that guy could carry the ball 300 times. That's what I want. Maybe it's not for the best.
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Old 04-12-2009, 03:15 PM   #66
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Good size and bulk....Excellent instincts....Terrific vision...Very good patience...Strong and will break tackles...Has some power and runs hard...Nice balance...Superb inside runner...Hits the hole with authority and has a burst...A reliable blocker and gives good effort...Good ball security...Durable with a lot of experience...Very productive...Has a nose for the endzone...Is mature and a team player.

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Does not have elite timed speed or quickness...Doesn't have much wiggle and isn't very elusive...Average route runner with limited experience catching the ball...Hands are a question mark...Has never carried the load and been a workhorse ... May not have a ton of upside.

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Enjoyed an exceptional college career and really made his mark in the Tigers record books...Initially declared for the 2008 NFL Draft but decided to return to Death Valley for his senior season when he saw so many other underclassmen running backs going pro...Split carries with C.J. Spiller the last few years and doesn't have as many miles on his tires as most four-year starters...Underwent surgery to repair a separated left shoulder in the summer of '08...Numbers were down as a senior but that was due in large part to a lack of opportunities and an inexperienced offensive line...Very good natural runner but isn't flashy and won't wow anyone in a workout setting...Has starting potential and should at the very least be a solid backup...Underrated and could be a steal for someone late on Day One or early on Day Two.
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Year GP Att Yds Avg TD Rec Yds TD
2005 11 165 913 5.3 9 19 152 0
2006 13 203 1,219 5.8 17 6 115 0
2007 13 214 1,101 5.1 10 12 136 2
2008 13 171 751 4.4 11 14 123 0
Totals 50 753 3,984 5.3 47 51 526 2


He's obviously going to need to be in a tandem backfield he spent 3 years of his college career in a tendem with a superspeed guy.

His 218 still puts him as one of the bigger backs in the draft, unless you think Chris Wells and Shonn Greene are the shit and want a 250lb RB.
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Honestly compare that guy to LJ, or even Kolby Smith. He doesn't look that big by comparison.

Maybe he's bigger than Charles, but I wouldn't want him taking the rock down by the goalline.
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He's 220lbs....

It's more important that he's been an inside runner his entire career and is very good at it than it is than he weighs 240lbs or something ridiculous like that. I'm talking about a good mid round prospect here, not using a 1st round pick on a RB.

You're being overly picky for a position that has a short lifespan where numerous guys produce without a problem.
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I wish we had a shot at Shonn Greene, but he'll be gone before we pick in the 3rd. I like Davis, though. He'd be a nice consolation prize.
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He's 220lbs....
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I don't care what he's listed at.

Look at him. No way that guy is moving a pile at the 1-yard line.
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I wish we had a shot at Shonn Greene, but he'll be gone before we pick in the 3rd. I like Davis, though. He'd be a nice consolation prize.
Yea Greene's going higher than I wanna use a pick on a RB.

Hell I think Moreno is gonna be a great player, he reminds me of Priest Holmes.
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I don't care what he's listed at.

Look at him. No way that guy is moving a pile at the 1-yard line.
You don't have to move a pile..look how many TD's he had in his career...he's an excellent inside runner that knows how to find the hole. Priest Holmes didn't move piles.
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I don't care what he's listed at.

Look at him. No way that guy is moving a pile at the 1-yard line.
Forget moving a pile - find a crease. Holmes and Marcus Allen were never denied and they never moved a pile.
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You don't have to move a pile..look how many TD's he had in his career...he's an excellent inside runner that knows how to find the hole. Priest Holmes didn't move piles.
Priest Holmes' piles got out of the way for him. He ran behind the greatest offensive line seen in a decade.

James Davis may not be so lucky.
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I think you have this love of the big back when in reality...most guys aren't that big. 220lbs is pretty big for a RB in todays game...
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