Chiefs ESPN gave us a B draft grade. Does that make the pessimist happier? - Page 10

milkman · 04-26-2009, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Aikman, Moose Johnston, Mark Stephnoski and Tony Tolbert must have had shitty careers after that 1-15 season after they were drafted.

Yep.

We need to hire private detectives to find them now.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-26-2009, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The Aaron Curry Corollary to the Pioli Principle:

If a guy looks like he's going to be the pick of the Chiefs, he's the greatest of all time, you can see intensity drip from his eyes over the fractured pixelation of YouTube and he'll be able to do things he's never done before just by the mere happenstance that he was drafted by Lord Linguine.

If a guy is projected as a 15-25 pick and he is taken by your team a half round before his projection, he's an impact player who will be able to do things he hasn't done before just by the mere happenstance that he was drafted by the God of Gnocchi.

If the 58th rated OT is drafted by the Archduke of Agnolotti when top 10 tackles are available, he's a mountain of a man with an ability to be a mauler on the right side and he's solved the problems of our O-line, even if he had his ass whipped every time he faced any legit pro prospect.

If a QB is available via trade, he's ****ing terrible and the Viceroy of Vermicelli should be fired. If he is then traded for, he's a future franchise cornerstone, better than a Pro Bowl QB in the same division who fetched 3x as much in return.

It should also be noted that there is a college QB amendment. No college QB is ever worthy of being drafted before round 6.

Absolute Gold.

Noss · 04-26-2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Are you kidding?

Using that logic, last year's draft was garbage, because we went 2-14.

That's beyond ridiculous.

So you think the 'good Herm drafts' for the last three years as the Chiefs went from 9-7, 4-12, to 2-14 was making the Chiefs better?

That's beyond ridiculous!

**HemiEd** · 04-26-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

Here's a shot in the dark...

And this is just a guess...

Perhaps...

Just maybe...

They think Jackson is a better player than Canty?

Or maybe a better team member, a better fit. He is trying to put together a team, not aquire pro bowlers.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-26-2009, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Noss

So you think the 'good Herm drafts' for the last three years as the Chiefs went from 9-7, 4-12, to 2-14 was making the Chiefs better?

That's beyond ridiculous!

You're going to blame Dorsey, Albert, Flowers, Charles, Cottam, Morgan, Carr - all rookies - for the Chiefs going 2-14 last year?

So when we go 3-13 this year, are you going to sack up and say that Pioli's draft was shitty?

Afterall,

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Originally Posted by Noss

If a draft doesn't improve your teams record it wasn't a good draft. You are as good as your record.

**DeezNutz** · 04-26-2009, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

He is trying to put together a team, not aquire pro bowlers.

Dude...

Have you ever seen a high-quality "team" that was short on Pro-Bowlers?

RippedmyFlesh · 04-26-2009, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle DeLexus

Canty would have been a great signing, but remember it takes two to tango. He might not have wanted anything to do with us.

Exactly which is why I don't get the pioli bashing about FA. He went after haynseworth and scott.Prob not easy recruiting which is what FA is nowdays..when you are 2-14. I think pioli would have loved to have fixed the dline through FA but if they don't want to come here what can you do?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-26-2009, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Noss

So you think the 'good Herm drafts' for the last three years as the Chiefs went from 9-7, 4-12, to 2-14 was making the Chiefs better?

That's beyond ridiculous!

Last years draft took Pioli out to the alley by the scruff of his neck, beat the **** out of him, and threw him in the dumpster for shits and giggles.

Noss · 04-26-2009, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

You're going to blame Dorsey, Albert, Flowers, Charles, Cottam, Morgan, Carr - all rookies - for the Chiefs going 2-14 last year?

So when we go 3-13 this year, are you going to sack up and say that Pioli's draft was shitty?

Afterall,

No. Because 3-13 is an improvement from 2-14.

**HemiEd** · 04-26-2009, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I have no problem with anything you've written here.

But, come on. If Pioli and co. aren't looking for Pro Bowlers, they should really be fired immediately.

This reminds me of when the Royals said they'd win a lot of games with 11 or 25 or 53 Ross Gloads. ****...
You have to have stars to win.

Well, we may connect the rest of the dots differently. Ii am assuming obviously, he is looking for the best player, but fitting into the team, is of the highest priority,

Approaching the draft the same way, when you are continually getting worse, would seem close to the definition of insanity.

Ok, lets take the best player no matter what, and hope we can make him fit. Never mind he has these issues we don't think will fit in and thrive.

Or, know who is going to fit ahead of time, and take those guys.

I could be all wet, but that is what I am seeing,.

Just Passin' By · 04-26-2009, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Dude...

Have you ever seen a high-quality "team" that was short on Pro-Bowlers?

Depends on what you mean by "short", really.

RippedmyFlesh · 04-26-2009, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

Last years draft took Pioli out to the alley by the scruff of his neck, beat the **** out of him, and threw him in the dumpster for shits and giggles.

We controlled the draft last year with the picks we had. I like the guys we got but gives those same picks to the colts,pitt,balt,philly,nyg,ne just off the top of my head and you would have a list of players as good if not better than dorsey albert flowers carr etc,,,

Mecca · 04-26-2009, 08:26 PM

I think his point is the best teams in the league have top of the line players, they aren't just a bunch of good hard workin guys that try hard.

**DeezNutz** · 04-26-2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Well, we may connect the rest of the dots differently. Ii am assuming obviously, he is looking for the best player, but fitting into the team, is of the highest priority,

Approaching the draft the same way, when you are continually getting worse, would seem close to the definition of insanity.

Ok, lets take the best player no matter what, and hope we can make him fit. Never mind he has these issues we don't think will fit in and thrive.

Or, know who is going to fit ahead of time, and take those guys.

I could be all wet, but that is what I am seeing,.

I know what you're saying, but it's a give and take.

Talent and winning go a long way to building "chemistry" and "team," yet there have essentially been all-star teams in sports history that haven't won crap.

There needs to be a middle ground, but the "not looking for Pro-Bowlers" line rings hollow to me.

**DeezNutz** · 04-26-2009, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I think his point is the best teams in the league have top of the line players, they aren't just a bunch of good hard workin guys that try hard.

Yes.

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