NFL Draft Yahoo Sports grades the Chiefs Draft: A- - Page 2

Herzig · 04-27-2009, 06:08 AM

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

Kansas City Chiefs
Picks: DE Tyson Jackson

, DT Alex Magee

, CB Donald Washington

, OL Colin Brown

, WR Quentin Lawrence, RB Javarris Williams

, TE Jake O’Connell

, K Ryan Succop

.
Positives: Jackson and Magee.
Negative: Needed some skill position help for Matt Cassel

.
Bottom line: A-. New Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli turned his first three picks into key foundation players with the selections of Jackson, Magee and by trading for Cassel at the start of free agency. One thing Pioli learned well from New England’s Belichick is to use your top picks on talented big men like Jackson, who is a carbon copy of Richard Seymour

(the No. 6 overall pick in the 2001 draft) and then build around those guys. Add Jackson and Magee to Glenn Dorsey

from the 2008 draft and suddenly you have the makings of a monster line. Get a few linebackers to go with it and the Chiefs stand to have a terrific defense by 2010

**Dave Lane** · 04-27-2009, 09:15 AM

Now the Raiders Now they have a right to bitch!!

**Dave Lane** · 04-27-2009, 09:17 AM

Raiders:

Bottom line: F. This draft is another cry for help by the Raiders as they keep taking players based on outdated theories about what works in the NFL. While wide receivers and defensive backs are still important, they must be complete players. Neither Heyward-Bey nor Mitchell are anything close to complete. At best, Heyward-Bey was ranked as the No. 3 receiver in the draft by most qualified analysts and should have been drafted somewhere in the 20s, not at No. 7 overall as the first receiver. Likewise, Mitchell was considered a borderline prospect, someone who should have gone in the sixth or seventh round. Furthermore, this was the eighth time in the past nine years that the Raiders have used a first- or second-round pick on a defensive back. They wouldn’t have to do that if they would pick good ones.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-27-2009, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane

Raiders:

Bottom line: F. This draft is another cry for help by the Raiders as they keep taking players based on outdated theories about what works in the NFL. While wide receivers and defensive backs are still important, they must be complete players. Neither Heyward-Bey nor Mitchell are anything close to complete. At best, Heyward-Bey was ranked as the No. 3 receiver in the draft by most qualified analysts and should have been drafted somewhere in the 20s, not at No. 7 overall as the first receiver. Likewise, Mitchell was considered a borderline prospect, someone who should have gone in the sixth or seventh round. Furthermore, this was the eighth time in the past nine years that the Raiders have used a first- or second-round pick on a defensive back. They wouldn’t have to do that if they would pick good ones.

Kinda like the Chiefs and defensive linemen?

Sure-Oz · 04-27-2009, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Kinda like the Chiefs and defensive linemen?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-27-2009, 09:24 AM

Well that settles it then!

EXCELSIOR!!!!!!

**Buehler445** · 04-27-2009, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Kinda like the Chiefs and defensive linemen?

Absolutely positively correct. Fortunately we got rid of our horrid, dumbass, never go away decision maker.

May Al Davis live forever.
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Rigodan · 04-27-2009, 09:27 AM

I'd feel a lot better about this draft if we had gotten rid of Tim Krumrie and hired someone that is actually competent to coach the d-line.

Reerun_KC · 04-27-2009, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by buddha

I don't think it's an A-, but a good solid B sounds about right.

The negative Nellys aren't going to like this thread...!

Thanks to threads, true fans and posts like this, lets me sleep at night knowing you guys will keep my Kleenex and Jergens stock at an all time high...

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-27-2009, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rigodan

I'd feel a lot better about this draft if we had gotten rid of Tim Krumrie and hired someone that is actually competent to coach the d-line.

This.

We just invested our first 2 picks on DL, and are asking Tim Krumrie to coach them.

Reerun_KC · 04-27-2009, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rigodan

I'd feel a lot better about this draft if we had gotten rid of Tim Krumrie and hired someone that is actually competent to coach the d-line.

Excellent post!

We have spent tons on the DL and yet to have reap the rewards due to coaching or lack there of....

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-27-2009, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rigodan

I'd feel a lot better about this draft if we had gotten rid of Tim Krumrie and hired someone that is actually competent to coach the d-line.

No shit. Last night I was entertaining the idea of starting a poll as to when Krumrie would turn Jackson to useless mush.

Reerun_KC · 04-27-2009, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

No shit. Last night I was entertaining the idea of starting a poll as to when Krumrie would turn Jackson to useless mush.

I bet Jackson and hand slap with the best of them...

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-27-2009, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

I bet Jackson and hand slap with the best of them...

Live from Camp:

(Krumrie): LINE UP FOR PATTY CAKE DRILL MOTHER****ERS!!!!

SenselessChiefsFan · 04-27-2009, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Excellent post!

We have spent tons on the DL and yet to have reap the rewards due to coaching or lack there of....

Who did Jared Allen blossom under? I am not his biggest fan, but he hasn't been give a ton to work with. He took a fourth round pick and helped him become one of the best DE's in the NFL.

Reerun_KC · 04-27-2009, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Who did Jared Allen blossom under? I am not his biggest fan, but he hasn't been give a ton to work with. He took a fourth round pick and helped him become one of the best DE's in the NFL.

How many first day picks do we have to supply Mr Slap fight until he gets it right?

Thanks but no thanks non-sensible. We need a DL coach if we are going to be better kup front....

04-27-2009, 06:08 AM
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Dave Lane Space Cadet and Aczabel Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Kanab, UT, USA Casino cash: $9333275 VARSITY	Raiders: Bottom line: F. This draft is another cry for help by the Raiders as they keep taking players based on outdated theories about what works in the NFL. While wide receivers and defensive backs are still important, they must be complete players. Neither Heyward-Bey nor Mitchell are anything close to complete. At best, Heyward-Bey was ranked as the No. 3 receiver in the draft by most qualified analysts and should have been drafted somewhere in the 20s, not at No. 7 overall as the first receiver. Likewise, Mitchell was considered a borderline prospect, someone who should have gone in the sixth or seventh round. Furthermore, this was the eighth time in the past nine years that the Raiders have used a first- or second-round pick on a defensive back. They wouldn’t have to do that if they would pick good ones. __________________ Thanks, Trump for the civics lesson. We are learning so much about RICO, espionage, sedition, impeachment, the 25th Amendment, order of succession, nepotism, separation of powers, 1st Amendment, obstruction of justice, the emoluments clause, conflicts of interest, collusion, sanctions, oligarchs, money laundering and so much more.
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