Kansas City Royals @ St.Louis Cardinals Game Thread (5/24)

[alnorth]

Final	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	R	H	E
KC (22-22)	1	0	0	0	1	0	1	0	0	3	8	0
STL (26-18)	0	0	0	0	0	2	0	0	0	2	8	0

Win, (4-1) Brian Bannister 6IP 2R 2ER 2BB 4K
Hold, (2) Horacio Ramirez 0.2IP 0R 0ER 2BB 0K
Hold, (1) John Bale 1.1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 2K
Save, (2) Juan Cruz 1IP 0R 0ER 1BB 0K

VS.



Loss, (5-4) Joel Piñeiro 7IP 3R 3ER 0BB 3K
Jason Motte 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 1K
Kyle McClellan 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 1K

Home Runs

none

Notable AL/NL Central Games

Final: COL 3, DET 1
Final/11: CLE 3, CIN 4
Final: PIT 4, CWS 3
Final: CHC 2, SD 7
Final: MIL 3, MIN 6

Starting Lineups

KC

1. Coco Crisp, CF
2. David DeJesus, LF
3. Billy Butler, 1B
4. Jose Guillen, RF
4. Juan Cruz, P
5. Mark Teahen, 3B
6. Alberto Callaspo, 2B
7. Miguel Olivo, C
8. Willie Bloomquist, SS
9. Brian Bannister, P
9. Mike Jacobs, ph
9. Tug Hulett, pr
9. Horacio Ramirez, P
9. John Bale, P
9. Mitch Maier, RF

STL

1. Skip Schumaker, 2B
2. Colby Rasmus, CF
3. Albert Pujols, 1B
4. Chris Duncan, LF
5. Rick Ankiel, RF
6. Yadier Molina, C
7. Joe Thurston, 3B
7. Khalil Greene, ph/SS
8. Joel Piñeiro, P
8. Jason Motte, P
8. Nick Stavinoha, ph
8. Kyle McClellan, P
9. Brian Barden, SS/3B

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Do you think the career numbers are a farce?

Please don't praise the stolen base. It's not '74.

No, batting order is not the least little bit relevant to their production. You set the batting order based on what you got, not the other way around.

This would be like crunching the numbers and figuring out one guy is a beast the last three years on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays through Sundays, so you sit him on Tuesdays and Thursdays. In statistics there's a pretty important rule that says "correlation does not necessarily imply causation".

[Frazod]

Watching the Royals take BP. It's overcast and humid, but there's a nice breeze.

Seems strange posting from the stadium.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by alnorth

No, batting order is not the least little bit relevant to their production. You set the batting order based on what you got, not the other way around.

This would be like crunching the numbers and figuring out one guy is a beast the last three years on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays through Sundays, so you sit him on Tuesdays and Thursdays. In statistics there's a pretty important rule that says "correlation does not necessarily mean causation".

It's relevant only so much as it affects a player's mental approach to the game.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by frazod

Watching the Royals take BP. It's overcast and humid, but there's a nice breeze.

Seems strange posting from the stadium.

Are they hitting any balls out of the infield?

[DeezNutz]

That said, I understand what you're saying, alnorth. Just don't agree 100 percent.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Are they hitting any balls out of the infield?

One or two. Actually somebody hit one over the bleechers.

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

That said, I understand what you're saying, alnorth. Just don't agree 100 percent.

I think its more likely that something else is causing it. In my silly example above, a player's bad performance might be correlated with Tuesday and Thursday, but then you look into it more and realize he tended to go to wild late night parties more often on Monday and Wednesday, and was tired the next day.

DDJ's production may be more correlated with the calendar than batting order. That is, it is far more likely that the league has simply figured out how to pitch to him.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by frazod

One or two. Actually somebody hit one over the bleechers.

My money is on Tony Pena.

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by frazod

One or two. Actually somebody hit one over the bleechers.

who was that?

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by alnorth

I think its more likely that something else is causing it. In my silly example above, a player's bad performance might be correlated with Tuesday and Thursday, but then you look into it more and realize he tended to go to wild late night parties more often on Monday and Wednesday, and was tired the next day.

DDJ's production may be more correlated with the calendar than batting order. That is, it is far more likely that the league has simply figured out how to pitch to him.

Here's my two cents for what's going on:

1. Being the "leadoff" hitter forces DDJ to have a more patient approach at the plate. He knows he needs to see pitches and work the count. It's his role in inning 1, and he takes this approach for the rest of the game.

2. The 2 hole typically sees more fastballs.

[alnorth]

Cool, Rockies got into a bases loaded 1-out jam with Detroit and got out of it giving up only 1 run.

[OmahaChief]

After watching the team the last 7 days I am predicting the following for today.

We will lose.
We will score 3 runs or less.
We will strike out 8 or more times.
We will make 2 errors.
We will ground into 2 DPs
4 Royals pitchers will take the mound today.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by alnorth

who was that?

Sorry I couldn't tell. We are up pretty high and his jersey didn't have a number.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by frazod

Sorry I couldn't tell. We are up pretty high and his jersey didn't have a number.

It was the ****ing bullpen catcher. Great.

[Frazod]

I love the new stadium - this is my first time here. There would be no breeze in the old one.