Something amazing to tell you concerning physics and motion

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

Try turning on a treadmill, holding the pen still, but pushing the roll down on the treadmill. The linear speed and rotating speed are still linked, but in relation to the speed of the treadmill, not the speed of the ground (0). That is much more similar to the question.

Okay, I see that.

So basically the question is can a Plane take off without moving forward relative to the ground? Regardless of whether or not it is moving relative to the treadmill, its not moving relative to the ground, so of course it cant.

But the original question just asked about the speed of the wheels relative to the treadmill, not the plane.