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**petegz28** · 06-18-2009, 06:04 PM

No alnorth tonight?

**petegz28** · 06-18-2009, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

The Hillman punching bag.

He shouldn't be held accountable for this, but it's hard to defend when it's his own words. At least it will make it easier for Moore to justify the firing, even though he's FAR more responsible for the sorry state of the ML roster.

Any manager for this team is still being asked to make chicken salad.

Moore did not do himself any favors this year, that is for sure.

**Dartgod** · 06-18-2009, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

21 errors.....in the last 12 games......our problem isn't pitching

Really? Wow, that's just inexcusable.

**DeezNutz** · 06-18-2009, 10:17 PM

We hit like complete shit, and it's too pricey to go buy a bunch of bats.

Therefore, our FA plan should be to acquire one legit bat and then nothing but defense. And then some more defense. And a bit more defense just to be sure, since it's cheaper than trying to get some boppers.

**petegz28** · 06-18-2009, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

Really? Wow, that's just inexcusable.

And that is just the official errors. If you ask me that stat could easily be more like 24

**petegz28** · 06-18-2009, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

We hit like complete shit, and it's too pricey to go buy a bunch of bats.

Therefore, our FA plan should be to acquire one legit bat and then nothing but defense. And then some more defense. And a bit more defense just to be sure, since it's cheaper than trying to get some boppers.

Scutaro is a FA next year and will get big $'s. But he would be an upgrade of what we have now. Given our situation he would be an upgrade across the board. Just not big on paying someone like him the money we would have to pay.

**DeezNutz** · 06-18-2009, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

And that is just the official errors. If you ask me that stat could easily be more like 24

Yes, and this is true of all teams in baseball.

The lengths that a player has to go to in order to be tagged with an error is ridiculous.

**DeezNutz** · 06-18-2009, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Scutaro is a FA next year and will get big $'s. But he would be an upgrade of what we have now. Given our situation he would be an upgrade across the board. Just not big on paying someone like him the money we would have to pay.

I don't care what it costs to get a legit 3-4 option at a middle infield position. Someone who can play plus defense and swing a respectable stick.

Whoever this is, pay him. Period.

I can't continue to watch this shit.

BWillie · 06-18-2009, 10:35 PM

When does Alex Gordon come back

**DeezNutz** · 06-18-2009, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007

When does Alex Gordon come back

I believe we can look forward to seeing him whiff on low and outside breaking balls in late July.

BWillie · 06-18-2009, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I believe we can look forward to seeing him whiff on low and outside breaking balls in late July.

And any pitcher throwing left handed

keg in kc · 06-19-2009, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

At least it will make it easier for Moore to justify the firing, even though he's FAR more responsible for the sorry state of the ML roster.

Allard Baird and David Glass are responsible for the sorry state of the ML roster. Moore's trying to MacGyver a team with no drafted core together with bubblegum and duct tape. The problem here is, and has been, the farm system, which he started rebuilding in 2007, and the fruits of that aren't something you see immediately. If his drafts aren't paying off by 2011, then we can start talking about how much of it's his failure. For right now, it doesn't really matter which lower tier free agent he dangles money in front of to fill the numerous holes. They're just caulk.

Demonpenz · 06-19-2009, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Allard Baird and David Glass are responsible for the sorry state of the ML roster. Moore's trying to MacGyver a team with no drafted core together with bubblegum and duct tape. The problem here is, and has been, the farm system, which he started rebuilding in 2007, and the fruits of that aren't something you see immediately. If his drafts aren't paying off by 2011, then we can start talking about how much of it's his failure. For right now, it doesn't really matter which lower tier free agent he dangles money in front of to fill the numerous holes. They're just caulk.

you know who knows this? Deeznutz!

**DeezNutz** · 06-19-2009, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Allard Baird and David Glass are responsible for the sorry state of the ML roster. Moore's trying to MacGyver a team with no drafted core together with bubblegum and duct tape. The problem here is, and has been, the farm system, which he started rebuilding in 2007, and the fruits of that aren't something you see immediately. If his drafts aren't paying off by 2011, then we can start talking about how much of it's his failure. For right now, it doesn't really matter which lower tier free agent he dangles money in front of to fill the numerous holes. They're just caulk.

I understand your point about the cock, and I applaud your passion.

While I agree with your big-picture view, with the vast majority of the blame going to Glass, there's little disputing the fact that the Royals spent some legit money this past off-season and Moore largely mishandled the funds. Trades, FA acquisitions and what not this past year have been terrible.

We knew offense was in short supply, but when Moore promised "whole-scale changes" at the end of last year, he's taken at least one big step back by assembling an embarrassing defensive team that STILL cannot hit.

keg in kc · 06-19-2009, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I understand your point about the cock, and I applaud your passion.

While I agree with your big-picture view, with the vast majority of the blame going to Glass, there's little disputing the fact that the Royals spent some legit money this past off-season and Moore largely mishandled the funds. Trades, FA acquisitions and what not this past year have been terrible.

No passion here, I haven't watched a game this year (not because I don't want to so much as I've been really, really busy...). I knew what was coming. What I do have is patience.

Trades and FA acquisitions were never going to save this team. That's why it's pointless to get upset about them. The vets they bring in aren't going to be cornerstone players, not for a perennial losing team with no talent core located in a small midwestern city. They're just placeholders for the future. And they're interchangeable. You could put any of a hundred names on the back of those jerseys, and the results would still be the same. This wasn't going to be better than a 75-win team regardless, not in 2009.

If this team is ever good again, it's going to come from the farm system.

**DeezNutz** · 06-19-2009, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

No passion here, I haven't watched a game this year (not because I don't want to so much as I've been really, really busy...). I knew what was coming. What I do have is patience.

Trades and FA acquisitions were never going to save this team. That's why it's pointless to get upset about them. The vets they bring in aren't going to be cornerstone players, not for a perennial losing team with no talent core located in a small midwestern city. They're just placeholders for the future. And they're interchangeable. You could put any of a hundred names on the back of those jerseys, and the results would still be the same. This wasn't going to be better than a 75-win team regardless, not in 2009.

If this team is ever good again, it's going to come from the farm system.

Your passion for the cock, not the team.

I see what you're saying on one hand about the acquired talent, but the problem is that we were paying real money. This isn't the '04 Royals version, where we we armed with a ceiling of 3 mil. per to try to lure talent. We spent enough money that we could and should be expecting results.

As Chiefs fans well know, building a team cannot solely be done through the draft. Though this needs to be your foundation, other avenues must be utilized to get optimum results.

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