Chiefs KCJohnny’s 2009 Chiefs Opening Day Analysis - Page 3

KCJohnny · 11:20 PM

GM moves: signing Cassel for $60 million is a waste of cap space. Cassel started for an 18-1 team that set an NFL record with Brady’s 50 TD passes. Cassel threw for 21 with the identical lineup. Chiefs continue to struggle with DL draft picks and could have better spent the cap dollars on acquiring Albert Haynesworth and developing Thigpen, Croyle, or drafting Sanchez. Trading away the best TE to ever step onto an NFL field will cripple an offense already paper thin on receiving weapons. Bringing in players at the end of their career (Thomas, Engram, Vrabel, Toomer, et al) doesn’t seem to make sense for a team rebuilding.
　
HC: Haley is overrated as an OC and unproven as a HC. Firing Gailey who ably served in ’08 as OC/QBs coach is a mistake. Gailey is a father-figure with a proven track record for developing young talent and building offenses around existing capabilities. Haley is a screamer who tests, intimidates and threatens. The Parcells comparisons are overhyped IMHO. Haley rode to the top with a dream lineup at AZ that managed to stay healthy through January. He has 2 PB players on his current offense (Waters, LJ).

QBs: The Chiefs had a QB that accounted for 22 scores in just 11 starts last year. Cassel will get every chance to prove he is not another Derek Andersen. Croyle has the most talent and skill among the Chiefs QBs but questions about his durability persist. Gutierrez has enough talent to make the squad if KC succeeds in shopping Thigpen. Look for Croyle to start September 13 at Baltimore.^{Strengths: The 2009 Chiefs should run for 2000 yards if they can avoid falling behind early, something they mostly succeeded at in ’08. The bench is strong and the running game looked stout against vanilla defenses in pre-season. Defense will be soft between the 20s but may firm up in the RZ with the 3-4. Chiefs may wind up playing BucBall in low-scoring contests still up for grabs in the 4th quarter. Sound familiar?

Weaknesses: This offense has been putrid on 3rd downs. Without Gonzalez, 3rd downs seem impossible to convert regardless of who is under center. Unless Lelie rehabs his waning career (remember Derek Alexander in 2000? It can happen…), the Chiefs have no proven deep threat on the perimeter and will rely on a dink-dunk passing attack to mask vulnerabilities on a shuffling OL. Likewise, the defense is softer than wet tissue on 3rd downs, and will be staying on the field too long. Injuries could push a unit on the bubble off the cliff. Clancy Pendergast’s ’08 Cards advanced to the SB despite allowing 26.6 ppg in the regular season. The ’08 Chiefs yielded 27.7.

Analysis: Haley has bitten off more than he can chew as HC and OC. His bad cop style of leadership may wear thin on the squad unless they see results by the bye week. Revolving QBs may complicate Haley’s goals if injuries occur behind a makeshift OL that is still developing even basic chemistry. The test will be improving over the 17 week season. If the Chiefs appear to be buying in, performing well and keeping games close by December, Haley will be on his way. The AFC Worst could be conquered by an 8-8 team again this year, and even the hapless Chiefs cannot be counted out already.

Prediction: 5-11, last place.

Bargain of the year: Corey Mays at $395k. Gamer.

Make or break year: Glenn Dorsey has to prove he can thrive at DE in the 3-4.

Most likely to have a breakout year: Tamba Hali will benefit significantly from the 3-4.

Go Chiefs!

KCJohnny}

**Reaper16** · 09-05-2009, 12:32 AM

Goddamnit. I was hopeful that KCJohnny was dead. Balls.

KCJohnny · 09-05-2009, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by wasi

HC: Haley is unproven both as an OC and HC. He had a nice run with Arizona last season but it remains to be seen whether or not it was just a flash in the pan or a fluke. His HC duties might suffer from his new roles but he has recognized the fact that he has very experienced coaches around him so I believe the burden will begin to be shared as the season progresses. Firing Gailey was a bold move. But I like the message it sends to his players. Those guys are now accountable directly to him and should the offense struggle it will be Haley having to answer for it. Lots of pressure on the rookie coach but I like the fact he's willing to make himself accountable just as he is asking his players to be. Haley is also the best thing that could happen to the current roster of Herm Edwards holdovers.

That is what concerns me the most. Who has been really successful as both HC and OC recently? The only name that comes to mind for me is Holmgren, and he was a SB OC twice before being hired by Seattle. Haley had an embarrassing treasure of talent to work with on the 2008 Cards offense and will have substantially less with the '09 Chiefs.

Fairplay · 09-05-2009, 12:42 AM

I don't blame Gonzo for leaving this rebuilding, going no where for a long time team. He had served his time here.

He wants a SB ring. Can you blame him? I hope he gets it.

He is still, after all these years the best TE in football. I wish him the best.

Fairplay · 09-05-2009, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Damn that is one ugly fugger.

Fairplay · 09-05-2009, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

Firing Gailey who ably served in ’08 as OC/QBs coach is a mistake. Gailey is a father-figure with a proven track record for developing young talent and building offenses around existing capabilities.

Hi Dad!

kcxiv · 09-05-2009, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

KCJohnny would highly approve of a franchise led by Herm Edwards and Tyler Thigpen.

That right there is the shit dreams are made of.

lol, you were on Herms and Huards jock. Come on now. lol I dont like KC Johnny's take either, but just saying.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-05-2009, 01:06 AM

After reading Johnny's takes for more than nine years, nothing surprises me (although I'm glad he's home and in one piece).

He's the definition of a true-homer. His "analysis" is second only to Coogs (9 wins??).

**Kyle DeLexus** · 09-05-2009, 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fairplay

I don't blame Gonzo for leaving this rebuilding, going no where for a long time team. He had served his time here.

He wants a SB ring. Can you blame him? I hope he gets it.

He is still, after all these years the best TE in football. I wish him the best.

I wish him the best after this season. This year I want them to lose as many as possible.

milkman · 09-05-2009, 04:47 AM

Life is good.

The original dumbass makes an appearence.

JuicesFlowing · 09-05-2009, 04:51 AM

1. Vrabel has been one of the best additions to this team
2. "develop Croyle and Thigpen" .... Really? -- No.
3. Just because Brady threw 50 TD passes doesn't mean that he could automatically repeat that. So Cassel throwing 21 the following year should not be a knock on Cassel at all.
4. NO way in hell KC finishes in last place with the two other dumpster fire teams having an off season of suckage like Oakland and Denver.

ArrowheadMagic · 09-05-2009, 06:55 AM

I literally LOL'd, thanks. Now, all joking aside, what do you really think KCJohnny?

Deberg_1990 · 09-05-2009, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

KCJohnny would highly approve of a franchise led by Herm Edwards and Tyler Thigpen.

That right there is the shit dreams are made of.

oh, dont forget Derrick Alexander at WR.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-05-2009, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Life is good.

The original dumbass makes an appearence.

I've mentioned several times that Haley and his approach are growing on me.

Glad to see Captain America and his ass-backwards ways of thinking validate it.

Hell, after reading that tripe, I like Haley even more.

Deberg_1990 · 09-05-2009, 07:25 AM

Is KCJohnny for real? He has to be some kind of bad joke right??

TheGuardian · 09-05-2009, 07:29 AM

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Cassel threw for 21 with the identical lineup.

I stopped reading there. I knew this guy didn't do his homework at that point alone. What a tard.

09-04-2009, 10:45 PM
KCJohnny Blind, deceived homer Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Maryland, USA Casino cash: $10004900	KCJohnny’s 2009 Chiefs Opening Day Analysis GM moves: signing Cassel for $60 million is a waste of cap space. Cassel started for an 18-1 team that set an NFL record with Brady’s 50 TD passes. Cassel threw for 21 with the identical lineup. Chiefs continue to struggle with DL draft picks and could have better spent the cap dollars on acquiring Albert Haynesworth and developing Thigpen, Croyle, or drafting Sanchez. Trading away the best TE to ever step onto an NFL field will cripple an offense already paper thin on receiving weapons. Bringing in players at the end of their career (Thomas, Engram, Vrabel, Toomer, et al) doesn’t seem to make sense for a team rebuilding. 　 HC: Haley is overrated as an OC and unproven as a HC. Firing Gailey who ably served in ’08 as OC/QBs coach is a mistake. Gailey is a father-figure with a proven track record for developing young talent and building offenses around existing capabilities. Haley is a screamer who tests, intimidates and threatens. The Parcells comparisons are overhyped IMHO. Haley rode to the top with a dream lineup at AZ that managed to stay healthy through January. He has 2 PB players on his current offense (Waters, LJ). QBs: The Chiefs had a QB that accounted for 22 scores in just 11 starts last year. Cassel will get every chance to prove he is not another Derek Andersen. Croyle has the most talent and skill among the Chiefs QBs but questions about his durability persist. Gutierrez has enough talent to make the squad if KC succeeds in shopping Thigpen. Look for Croyle to start September 13 at Baltimore.^{Strengths: The 2009 Chiefs should run for 2000 yards if they can avoid falling behind early, something they mostly succeeded at in ’08. The bench is strong and the running game looked stout against vanilla defenses in pre-season. Defense will be soft between the 20s but may firm up in the RZ with the 3-4. Chiefs may wind up playing BucBall in low-scoring contests still up for grabs in the 4th quarter. Sound familiar? Weaknesses: This offense has been putrid on 3rd downs. Without Gonzalez, 3rd downs seem impossible to convert regardless of who is under center. Unless Lelie rehabs his waning career (remember Derek Alexander in 2000? It can happen…), the Chiefs have no proven deep threat on the perimeter and will rely on a dink-dunk passing attack to mask vulnerabilities on a shuffling OL. Likewise, the defense is softer than wet tissue on 3rd downs, and will be staying on the field too long. Injuries could push a unit on the bubble off the cliff. Clancy Pendergast’s ’08 Cards advanced to the SB despite allowing 26.6 ppg in the regular season. The ’08 Chiefs yielded 27.7. Analysis: Haley has bitten off more than he can chew as HC and OC. His bad cop style of leadership may wear thin on the squad unless they see results by the bye week. Revolving QBs may complicate Haley’s goals if injuries occur behind a makeshift OL that is still developing even basic chemistry. The test will be improving over the 17 week season. If the Chiefs appear to be buying in, performing well and keeping games close by December, Haley will be on his way. The AFC Worst could be conquered by an 8-8 team again this year, and even the hapless Chiefs cannot be counted out already. Prediction: 5-11, last place. Bargain of the year: Corey Mays at $395k. Gamer. Make or break year: Glenn Dorsey has to prove he can thrive at DE in the 3-4. Most likely to have a breakout year: Tamba Hali will benefit significantly from the 3-4. Go Chiefs! KCJohnny} Last edited by KCJohnny; 09-04-2009 at 11:20 PM.. Reason: sp
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09-05-2009, 12:42 AM	#33
Fairplay A certain set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: texas Casino cash: $10026683 VARSITY	I don't blame Gonzo for leaving this rebuilding, going no where for a long time team. He had served his time here. He wants a SB ring. Can you blame him? I hope he gets it. He is still, after all these years the best TE in football. I wish him the best.
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09-05-2009, 01:06 AM	#37
DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	After reading Johnny's takes for more than nine years, nothing surprises me (although I'm glad he's home and in one piece). He's the definition of a true-homer. His "analysis" is second only to Coogs (9 wins??).
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09-05-2009, 04:47 AM	#39
milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	Life is good. The original dumbass makes an appearence. __________________
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09-05-2009, 04:51 AM	#40
JuicesFlowing Losing with passion. Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oblivion Casino cash: $10004925	1. Vrabel has been one of the best additions to this team 2. "develop Croyle and Thigpen" .... Really? -- No. 3. Just because Brady threw 50 TD passes doesn't mean that he could automatically repeat that. So Cassel throwing 21 the following year should not be a knock on Cassel at all. 4. NO way in hell KC finishes in last place with the two other dumpster fire teams having an off season of suckage like Oakland and Denver.
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09-05-2009, 06:55 AM	#41
ArrowheadMagic Veteran Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OPKS Casino cash: $7853465	I literally LOL'd, thanks. Now, all joking aside, what do you really think KCJohnny?
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09-05-2009, 07:25 AM	#44
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