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Old 09-21-2009, 11:57 AM  
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Was the Gilberry roughing the passer call any different than what happened to Palmer on this play?

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Old 09-21-2009, 12:21 PM   #16
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It doesn't matter how many players piled on him if he wasn't down by contact.
unless the refs thought it was excessive. Just saying that could have been a factor if it happened.
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Old 09-21-2009, 12:26 PM   #17
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Technically, it was the right call. It's a bullshit rule, though.

The worst call of the game was the PI, non PI, then illegal contact call on Flowers and Carr. That was god ****ing awful officiating.

It'd really be nice if TV Nets weren't so obsequious to the NFL that they could call them out on their bullshit.
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Old 09-21-2009, 12:27 PM   #18
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I cracked up watching Haley tell the ref that it was a bullshit call. From what I could hear, and read from his lips he was saying it was the 2nd or 3rd bullshit call during the game, and he was tired of their bullshit. I LOL'd pretty good.
The other two... one was where they called Carr for illegal contact on the 3rd and 2 incomplete pass that Flowers defended where they waived off interference on Flowers. Go back and watch that one. It is totally bogus as well and led directly to 3 points that the Faiders should not have had.

The 3rd one was the push in the back block on a running play to the left that was about 15 yards down field. Even the announcers said that one was pretty cheap.

You have to be able to overcome the refs to win in any sport, but I really thought the refs got in the way of the game on this particular day.
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Old 09-21-2009, 12:31 PM   #19
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The other two... one was where they called Carr for illegal contact on the 3rd and 2 incomplete pass that Flowers defended where they waived off interference on Flowers. Go back and watch that one. It is totally bogus as well and led directly to 3 points that the Faiders should not have had.

The 3rd one was the push in the back block on a running play to the left that was about 15 yards down field. Even the announcers said that one was pretty cheap.

You have to be able to overcome the refs to win in any sport, but I really thought the refs got in the way of the game on this particular day.
Absolutely they did. Having that said, Cassel not thrown those picks, the Chiefs would have won regardless. Gotta overcome terrible officiating sometimes if you wanna win.

Anyone know some of the ref's home addresses? I wanna go vandalize their yards.
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Old 09-21-2009, 12:36 PM   #20
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The other two... one was where they called Carr for illegal contact on the 3rd and 2 incomplete pass that Flowers defended where they waived off interference on Flowers. Go back and watch that one. It is totally bogus as well and led directly to 3 points that the Faiders should not have had.

The 3rd one was the push in the back block on a running play to the left that was about 15 yards down field. Even the announcers said that one was pretty cheap.

You have to be able to overcome the refs to win in any sport, but I really thought the refs got in the way of the game on this particular day.
I saw Albert jump on a play where the D player across from him pulled an obvious Neil Smith fake start, Albert of course got the flag and 5 yards back we walked.
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Old 09-21-2009, 12:42 PM   #21
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Technically, it was the right call. It's a bullshit rule, though.

The worst call of the game was the PI, non PI, then illegal contact call on Flowers and Carr. That was god ****ing awful officiating.

It'd really be nice if TV Nets weren't so obsequious to the NFL that they could call them out on their bullshit.
No it wasn't the right call. It was the wrong call because the QB hadn't been touched.
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Old 09-21-2009, 12:44 PM   #22
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Regardless if its a bad call or a shitty rule, we let them convert on 3rd and 15. Thats even more shitty than any penalty.
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Old 09-21-2009, 12:47 PM   #23
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Old 09-21-2009, 12:51 PM   #24
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No it wasn't the right call. It was the wrong call because the QB hadn't been touched.
Actually it was the right call, and it's a bullshit rule as Hamas stated. The rule is you are not allowed to put your full body weight into the QB. Gilberry fell on top of him forcefully. Whether he's been touched or not, you can't put your full body weight into a QB. It's a bullshit, pussy ass rule, but a rule none the less.
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Old 09-21-2009, 12:51 PM   #25
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No it wasn't the right call. It was the wrong call because the QB hadn't been touched.
The flag was for unnecessary roughness. I happen to think they made a piss poor interpretation of that rule.
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The call was ticky-tack, but not out of line with what refs have been calling lately. The NFL seems completely determined to cut defenders' balls off when it comes to hitting the QB.
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Actually it was the right call, and it's a bullshit rule as Hamas stated. The rule is you are not allowed to put your full body weight into the QB. Gilberry fell on top of him forcefully. Whether he's been touched or not, you can't put your full body weight into a QB. It's a bullshit, pussy ass rule, but a rule none the less.
you are not allowed to drive the QB into the ground with your full body weight.

We didn't do that, Russell was on that ground already but wasn't down by contact.
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The flag was for unnecessary roughness. I happen to think they made a piss poor interpretation of that rule.
The flag was for a late hit not unnecessary roughness.
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Well one in the same but the ref said late hit not anything else.
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