Texans fans seem to be falling in love with Pollard.

[BossChief]

I almost guarantee one could make a better defense out of the players that have left, than what we still have.

Jared Allen
Scott Fujita
Kawika Mitchell
Lawrence Tynes
Bernard Pollard
Ryan Sims (just a warm body)
Vonnie Holliday
Benny Sapp
Junior Siavii (I just needed a warm body, cant remember other dlinemen)
Keyaron Fox

Is there anyone else?

I realize these arent all world players, but all (except Sims and Siavii) could help us.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I almost guarantee one could make a better defense out of the players that have left, than what we still have.

Jared Allen
Scott Fujita
Kawika Mitchell
Lawrence Tynes
Bernard Pollard
Ryan Sims (just a warm body)
Vonnie Holliday
Benny Sapp
Junior Siavii (I just needed a warm body, cant remember other dlinemen)
Keyaron Fox

Is there anyone else?

I realize these arent all world players, but all (except Sims and Siavii) could help us.

Wilkerson has 5 sacks for TB, and would be a solid end in a 3-4, IMO.
McBride had 1.5 sacks in the Lions' last game.


A D of:

RDE: Allen
3T: Dorsey (McBride)
NT: Edwards
LDE: Hali (Wilkerson, Holliday)

WLB: Fujita (Fox)
MLB: Mitchell (DJ)
SLB: DJ

RCB: Flowers
LCB: Carr
SS: Pollard
FS: Page (Morgan)

If you play a defense that uses a lot of press coverage, that's a damned good defense.

Fortunately, our player development is ****ing excellent.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Wilkerson has 5 sacks for TB, and would be a solid end in a 3-4, IMO.
McBride had 1.5 sacks in the Lions' last game.


A D of:

RDE: Allen
3T: Dorsey (McBride)
NT: Edwards
LDE: Hali (Wilkerson, Holliday)

WLB: Fujita (Fox)
MLB: Mitchell (DJ)
SLB: DJ

RCB: Flowers
LCB: Carr
SS: Pollard
FS: Page (Morgan)

If you play a defense that uses a lot of press coverage, that's a damned good defense.

Fortunately, our player development is ****ing excellent.

I cant believe I forgot to add Jimmy and McBride.

Jimmy has 5.5...he should have 6 but you know how the coaches like the players to share.

I can literally post a link to a post of mine calling for us to either keep every one of those guys or me being pissed they were let go for whatever reason they let go. (except Siavii)

**** YOU CP !!! **** YOU IN THE BUNGHOLE !!!!

Add to that the possibilities we could have had if that ****ing moron had traded LJ and kept Jared like any competant GM would have.

that is 100% proof that CP is a complete and total FAIL

I bet those players have double, if not triple how many sacks our whole team has currently.

He should hve been fired when the Hunts found out he didnt fire Gunther face to face. That is a HUGE sign he wasnt capable of doing his damn job.

I would have liked to see Marty with a franchise Qb back in the days, but again CP is a total idiot....OH WAIT I FORGOT HE BROUGHT IN JOE MONTANA....oh wait that was the only time we ever had a legitimate chance at a superbowl.

Very telling also is that most of those players were our leading tackler the year before they were jettisoned.

Pollard was.

Damn I hate CP, and Scott Pioli is starting to piss me off too, but wait I dont want to be called a flip flopper by Buster ****ing Hymen so I better not say bad words about the great Pioli!

[Tiger's Fan]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I cant believe I forgot to add Jimmy and McBride.

Jimmy has 5.5...he should have 6 but you know how the coaches like the players to share.

I can literally post a link to a post of mine calling for us to either keep every one of those guys or me being pissed they were let go for whatever reason they let go. (except Siavii)

**** YOU CP !!! **** YOU IN THE BUNGHOLE !!!!

Add to that the possibilities we could have had if that ****ing moron had traded LJ and kept Jared like any competant GM would have.

that is 100% proof that CP is a complete and total FAIL

I bet those players have double, if not triple how many sacks our whole team has currently.

He should hve been fired when the Hunts found out he didnt fire Gunther face to face. That is a HUGE sign he wasnt capable of doing his damn job.

I would have liked to see Marty with a franchise Qb back in the days, but again CP is a total idiot....OH WAIT I FORGOT HE BROUGHT IN JOE MONTANA....oh wait that was the only time we ever had a legitimate chance at a superbowl.

Very telling also is that most of those players were our leading tackler the year before they were jettisoned.

Pollard was.

Damn I hate CP, and Scott Pioli is starting to piss me off too, but wait I dont want to be called a flip flopper by Buster ****ing Hymen so I better not say bad words about the great Pioli!

You are full of shit, as usual.

You were sucking Herms imaginary penis till the day he was fired, unless you'd care to lie about that too. You also thought that Thigpen should be the starter this year, and the Chiefs wouldn't be bringing in another QB, either through draft or FA. Now you suddenly think Pollard is a world beater, even though theres a ton of proof otherwise. You are football stupid. It may be time for you to stfu and watch and learn for a change.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Buster Hymen

You are full of shit, as usual.

You were sucking Herms imaginary penis till the day he was fired, unless you'd care to lie about that too. You also thought that Thigpen should be the starter this year, and the Chiefs wouldn't be bringing in another QB, either through draft or FA. Now you suddenly think Pollard is a world beater, even though theres a ton of proof otherwise. You are football stupid. It may be time for you to stfu and watch and learn for a change.

First, no one said he's a world beater. However, he is, IMO a serviceable safety - and compared to Mike Brown, he's an upgrade.

And what "proof otherwise" do you have?

That he played poorly because he was being used incorrectly - something that happened to several players during Herm's time here?

Hiring dipshit defensive coordinator after dipshit defensive coordinator is the bigger issue here.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

First, no one said he's a world beater. However, he is, IMO a serviceable safety - and compared to Mike Brown, he's an upgrade.

And what "proof otherwise" do you have?

That he played poorly because he was being used incorrectly - something that happened to several players during Herm's time here?

Hiring dipshit defensive coordinator after dipshit defensive coordinator is the bigger issue here.

And it continues, this coaching staff leaves a lot to be desired.

[Easy 6]

Pollard, through 4 games with a new team: 23tak 0sck 0force fumble

Brown, through the first 4 games with a new team: 27tak 1sck 0force fumble

Is Brown the same guy that played in Chicago? Outside of leadership ability, is he substantially better than Pollard?... obviously not.

Brown was kept, IMO, because of his experience, because he knows how to prepare like a former All-Pro & the coaches are hoping some of that will rub off on the young guys.

Go ahead & rip my last paragraph, i can see the openings... but the stat sheet says we didnt lose a goddamned thing, why is everyone acting like we just canned Ronnie Lott?

[Tiger's Fan]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

First, no one said he's a world beater. However, he is, IMO a serviceable safety - and compared to Mike Brown, he's an upgrade.

And what "proof otherwise" do you have?

That he played poorly because he was being used incorrectly - something that happened to several players during Herm's time here?

Hiring dipshit defensive coordinator after dipshit defensive coordinator is the bigger issue here.

Bad being better than worse still doesn't equal good. Don't you think hiding Pollard in a defense with their front, and Ryans and Cushing makes him look better than he actually is?

Kawika Mitchell and Nap Harris led the Chiefs in tackles in consecutive years. Does that make them magically good? I didn't think so. We're crying over garbage players here, and while the defensive coaching leaves something to be desired, it's pretty much a fact that the players themselves suck.

Pollard being played in a cover who, or 3/4 doesn't take away from the fact that he is a terrible tackler, who lost contain all the time, and is slower than shit. Just because Mike Brown is slower doesn't make Pollard fast. It probably was a mistake cutting him for Brown, but the difference is VERY subtle.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Buster Hymen

Bad being better than worse still doesn't equal good. Don't you think hiding Pollard in a defense with their front, and Ryans and Cushing makes him look better than he actually is?

Kawika Mitchell and Nap Harris led the Chiefs in tackles in consecutive years. Does that make them magically good? I didn't think so. We're crying over garbage players here, and while the defensive coaching leaves something to be desired, it's pretty much a fact that the players themselves suck.

Pollard being played in a cover who, or 3/4 doesn't take away from the fact that he is a terrible tackler, who lost contain all the time, and is slower than shit. Just because Mike Brown is slower doesn't make Pollard fast. It probably was a mistake cutting him for Brown, but the difference is VERY subtle.

You're right, better than bad does not equal good.

But it does equal better, and in this case, younger. I'd rather play a younger guy that at least has the chance to get better, than the old guy that everyone knew was done but us. (This conversation could apply to Goff as well)

Again, I'm not saying that Pollard is the second coming of Ronnie Lott.

He's not.

However, he's a clear upgrade over Brown, and I for one would have like to witnessed what he could do when utilized correctly.

Unfortunately, I have to watch Texans games to do so.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Buster Hymen

It probably was a mistake cutting him for Brown, but the difference is VERY subtle.

if you think this is true, you should get your player card suspended.

night and day difference. You do watch the games, dont you?

Pollard was good against the run and struggled at times against the pass, playing Brown is like making us play with 10 players on defense at all times.

that doesnt mean Pollard is ever gonna be a all pro, but he could be a solid starter when the rest of the team isnt completely terrible.

He is proving that to be true right now, evidently. He looks like the next Chiefs defender that goes on to a very successful career elsewhere while our defense continues to suck.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Buster Hymen

You are full of shit, as usual.

You were sucking Herms imaginary penis till the day he was fired, unless you'd care to lie about that too. You also thought that Thigpen should be the starter this year, and the Chiefs wouldn't be bringing in another QB, either through draft or FA. Now you suddenly think Pollard is a world beater, even though theres a ton of proof otherwise. You are football stupid. It may be time for you to stfu and watch and learn for a change.

You still here?

I can post a link to my "I was wrong" thread owning up to my fail on the subject that was after about five or six games last year if you so choose.

Yes, I did say at one point that we were a couple years away from competing and that we should just take our licks with Thigpen this year and spend the draft picks on fixing the oline and getting a young passrusher. This would set us up with one of two things: a top five pick again where we knew he wasnt gonna ever get better and we could select a qb whether it be McCoy, Bradford or whoever was the consensus best fit at the time, or two he ends up improving like he did in college and become a good game manager that is mobile, good enough that they would decide he was good enough to have earned the permanent starters role.

Part of me still thinks that would have had us further along right now because next year when we did select a qb with a high first rounder, the line would be in place to protect him when he was ready the following year.

Not a perfect strategy, but Im sure you prefer trading for a 27 year old with 15 games worth of experience since high school that in a qb friendly system couldnt get half the stats as Tom Brady did the following the year and made it by with the surrounding talent. You realize that by the time we have a team assembled, he will be approaching 30 right? Bradford or Mccoy would be like 25 or 26. That make sense to you?

I had alot of angles I suggested for the draft. This wasnt the only one. It may have not been the worst one either.

I still dont think this team was quite ready to have a qb that would play immediatly, that should be plainly obvious for all to see by now, I was right on that and wasnt alone.

This team is at least two years away from being taken serious and I was disapointed when we traded for a already 27 year old QB with very little experience and decieving production.

If Cassel didnt have Moss and Welker to throw to, he would have looked as lost a he does so far this year.

now listen closely to this

CASSEL GOT 63,000,000 FOR NOT WREKING THE FERRARI, MAINLY BECAUSE HE NEVER EVEN SHIFTED IT INTO SIXTH GEAR BECAUSE HE WAS SCARED TO.

Now moving on to Pollard, anyone here or over at the coalition can tell you Pollard was my boy since his first year when he helped us into the playoffs by blocking that punt and recovering it for a TD against the Jags.

THE GUY IS IN MY ****ING SIG OVER THERE.

Here it is to show so it can kill that right now you lying/exagerating ****!


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