Football Texans fans seem to be falling in love with Pollard. - Page 7

**BossChief** · 01:38 PM

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**BossChief** · 10-30-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster Hymen

You ARE a Herm and Thigpen loving moron. You know shit. You've already been dispatched as a ****ing idiot on several sites. You flip flop more than Obama. Please share with the board how much you regret our getting rid of Thigpen. I'll sit back and watch.

please, do tell, because the only Chiefs boards I post on are this and the Coalition, which I am loved at. I would like to know which boards I am in your words only "dispatched as a ****ing idiot" you damn fool.

My username is the same everywhere I post and I would provide the list of sites to anyone that wants to know so they can go find out for themselves exactly what my beliefs are that arent already in type here.

What is your username at the coalition? Hold on, let me guess...wilsonfootball. I bet thats it because he spits the same mindless drivel and has absolutly nobody ever there to back his side of a discussion...that is you to a T from what Ive seen. I bet thats it.

me=leader.....you=last to be picked to a team LOSER/FOLLOWER

Everytime a hater like yourself takes a shot at me over there, its usually because I am not afraid of voicing my true opinion. You on the other hand only jump on the ****ing bandwagon and hang on tight, you ****ing pussy!

When Herm got there, I sure as shit liked the decision. Many did. The guy had lead his team to the playoffs in every year his QB was healthy and almost had them in the afc championship game. The more I saw his gameday dumb, the more I criticized it. Eventually I got off the Herm support vehicle and joined the club.

Call that flip flopping, or making an informed decision once enough information was there to do so. Whatever, your hatin dumb ****ing ass wants to call it.

I still think we should have kept Thigpen as a backup. I dont care if that is popular.

Everyone is wrong once in awhile and apperently, Parcells believed he had value and decided to trade for him. But let me guess, you know better right?

Was he all world or possessing the talent to be, one day? I dont think so. Did he have the talent to be a very good backup that can get you through stretches where the QB was out, yes. I have brought up his name multiple times, I have never flip flopped as you suggest.

You are nothing but a hater, and a piece of shit.

You should feel special because you are in a world all alone where nobody likes you.

The things I defended Herm for, I still do if you would pay attention. I am a realist, I feel he was undeserving of about 1/3 of the critisism he gets here and elsewhere because he inherited the oldest team in the NFL and transformed it into the youngest in two years, only idiots like you expect the playoffs in those circumstances. I jumped off as soon as I could tell last year was going nowhere, did I make a mistake of supporting him too long? Yes, I admit that. Do I think more blame for the Chiefs demise should be laid at the doorstep of CP? **** YES!!!

Again everyone makes mistakes.

So, again what did I flip flop about again?

Please do tell the world the truth you bitch made idiot, or get the **** off the nuts cause IM CAKN PATNA!!!

Go play in traffic!

**SAUTO** · 10-30-2009, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish

That is your problem. We're still waiting on the evidence to support your theory. Have you given up?

no not giving up just busy working. why dont you prove me wrong?

Fish · 10-30-2009, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

no not giving up just busy working. why dont you prove me wrong?

I don't have to. The burden of proof is on you. You made the ridiculous claim. If you want people to take you seriously, you'll have to back up claims like that. But you won't. And people will continue to dismiss your claims.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-30-2009, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I almost guarantee one could make a better defense out of the players that have left, than what we still have.

Jared Allen
Scott Fujita
Kawika Mitchell
Lawrence Tynes
Bernard Pollard
Ryan Sims (just a warm body)
Vonnie Holliday
Benny Sapp
Junior Siavii (I just needed a warm body, cant remember other dlinemen)
Keyaron Fox

Is there anyone else?

I realize these arent all world players, but all (except Sims and Siavii) could help us.

Wilkerson has 5 sacks for TB, and would be a solid end in a 3-4, IMO.
McBride had 1.5 sacks in the Lions' last game.

A D of:

RDE: Allen
3T: Dorsey (McBride)
NT: Edwards
LDE: Hali (Wilkerson, Holliday)

WLB: Fujita (Fox)
MLB: Mitchell (DJ)
SLB: DJ

RCB: Flowers
LCB: Carr
SS: Pollard
FS: Page (Morgan)

If you play a defense that uses a lot of press coverage, that's a damned good defense.

Fortunately, our player development is ****ing excellent.

Hammock Parties · 10-30-2009, 04:42 PM

Who cares. His performance warranted being cut. Now that he actually got the message and improved, good for him. He's still nothing special.

**Skip Towne** · 10-30-2009, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Who cares. His performance warranted being cut. Now that he actually got the message and improved, good for him. He's still nothing special.

Yet another failure in your long line of talent evaluations. Give it up.

**SAUTO** · 10-30-2009, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish

I don't have to. The burden of proof is on you. You made the ridiculous claim. If you want people to take you seriously, you'll have to back up claims like that. But you won't. And people will continue to dismiss your claims.

PETERSON 34 4th qtr carries same as 1-3
jones 26 same as 2 less than all the rest
benson 37 less than all but the 3rd
jackson 23 less than all other qtrs
johnson 24 same as the 1st less than the 2nd more than the 3rd.

so that shows that in most of these cases the 4th is one of their qtrs with less than their average carries compared to other qtrs.

not as asinine or ridiculous as some would claim.

Hammock Parties · 10-30-2009, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

Yet another failure in your long line of talent evaluations. Give it up.

He was garbage when he was here, no question. His cut was deserving.

I'd say it woke his ass up.

By the way, I never said that Pollard wasn't talented, just that he was a shitty player. And he was.

**BossChief** · 10-30-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Wilkerson has 5 sacks for TB, and would be a solid end in a 3-4, IMO.
McBride had 1.5 sacks in the Lions' last game.

A D of:

RDE: Allen
3T: Dorsey (McBride)
NT: Edwards
LDE: Hali (Wilkerson, Holliday)

WLB: Fujita (Fox)
MLB: Mitchell (DJ)
SLB: DJ

RCB: Flowers
LCB: Carr
SS: Pollard
FS: Page (Morgan)

If you play a defense that uses a lot of press coverage, that's a damned good defense.

Fortunately, our player development is ****ing excellent.

I cant believe I forgot to add Jimmy and McBride.

Jimmy has 5.5...he should have 6 but you know how the coaches like the players to share.

I can literally post a link to a post of mine calling for us to either keep every one of those guys or me being pissed they were let go for whatever reason they let go. (except Siavii)

**** YOU CP !!! **** YOU IN THE BUNGHOLE !!!!

Add to that the possibilities we could have had if that ****ing moron had traded LJ and kept Jared like any competant GM would have.

that is 100% proof that CP is a complete and total FAIL

I bet those players have double, if not triple how many sacks our whole team has currently.

He should hve been fired when the Hunts found out he didnt fire Gunther face to face. That is a HUGE sign he wasnt capable of doing his damn job.

I would have liked to see Marty with a franchise Qb back in the days, but again CP is a total idiot....OH WAIT I FORGOT HE BROUGHT IN JOE MONTANA....oh wait that was the only time we ever had a legitimate chance at a superbowl.

Very telling also is that most of those players were our leading tackler the year before they were jettisoned.

Pollard was.

Damn I hate CP, and Scott Pioli is starting to piss me off too, but wait I dont want to be called a flip flopper by Buster ****ing Hymen so I better not say bad words about the great Pioli!

**BossChief** · 10-30-2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

He was garbage when he was here, no question. His cut was deserving.

I'd say it woke his ass up.

By the way, I never said that Pollard wasn't talented, just that he was a shitty player. And he was.

the guy got better each and every year he was here and was a very young guy when he was jettisoned.

He missed some tackles, but also made some big ones too, and he always went for the strip of the ball.

Our strong side safety leads a bad team in tackles and all of a sudden the fault is his that we suck?

that doesnt make sense.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-30-2009, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

PETERSON 34 4th qtr carries same as 1-3
jones 26 same as 2 less than all the rest
benson 37 less than all but the 3rd
jackson 23 less than all other qtrs
johnson 24 same as the 1st less than the 2nd more than the 3rd.

so that shows that in most of these cases the 4th is one of their qtrs with less than their average carries compared to other qtrs.

not as asinine or ridiculous as some would claim.

You keep confusing quantity and quality.

Using those Top 5 guys as examples again:

Benson has a higher YPC average in the 1st and 3rd quarters than he does in the 4th.

AP's YPC is highest in the 4th.

Steven Jackson has a higher YPC in the 2nd and 3rd quarters than he does in the 4th.

Thomas Jones has a higher YPC in the 2nd quarter.

Chris Johnson's YPC is lowest in the 4th quarter by almost half.

Once again showing that only 1 of the Top 5 leading rushers actually produce more in the 4th quarter than at other times in the game - rendering your useless "guesses" wrong, per usual.

**SAUTO** · 10-30-2009, 05:23 PM

here i'll take it further

avg carries per qtr 4th qtr carries
benson 41 37
jackson 35.75 23
johnson 23.75 24
peterson 34.25 34
jones 30.5 26

johnson and peterson are pretty close, the others are below their average, not so ridiculous now huh?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-30-2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

here i'll take it further

avg carries per qtr 4th qtr carries
benson 41 37
jackson 35.75 23
johnson 23.75 24
peterson 34.25 34
jones 30.5 26

johnson and peterson are pretty close, the others are below their average, not so ridiculous now huh?

See above.

That's why the TYC stat exists. To compare productivity among guys who may not get the same workload.

**SAUTO** · 10-30-2009, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

See above.

That's why the TYC stat exists. To compare productivity among guys who may not get the same workload.

they STILL carry the ball less in the 4th. thats what i said originally right? funny how you move the posts yet again, we were talking about running backs and them getting more yards in the 4th. nothing about per carry avg. you come back and say that they have less yards in the 4th which i say is because most of them are behind in the 4th and thus are throwing the ball more. You say for ne to prove it and i did. Then, as per usual with you, you want to bring up yards per carry, something that has nothing to do with the discussion. They arent getting the same chances to run the ball in the 4th. well mostly

**SAUTO** · 10-30-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

YEAH i realize that, but less runs= less chances to break a big one. and most rushing yards are accumulated in the 4th qtr after defenses are worn down, do you not realize that?

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

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I'm not going to spend all day proving him wrong, but here's what I've found about the Top 5's 4th quarter stats:

Benson: Least yards in 4th quarter compared to 1st-3rd.

AP: Most rushing yards in 4th.

Jackson: Least yards in 4th quarter.

T. Jones: 2nd lowest compared to 1st-3rd.

C. Johnson: Least yards in 4th quarter.

So, 1 out of the top 5 rushers have more yardage in the 4th quarter than any of the previous 3 quarters on the year - and 3 of them have their lowest totals in the 4th quarter.

here's the actual conversation again, i have only used stats that have to do with what we talked about at first. You, on the other hand, now want to change it to include yards per carry. the only reason you are arguing here is because it's me that said it and thats funny

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SAUTO Shit Join Date: Jun 2008 Casino cash: $10039067	here i'll take it further avg carries per qtr 4th qtr carries benson 41 37 jackson 35.75 23 johnson 23.75 24 peterson 34.25 34 jones 30.5 26 johnson and peterson are pretty close, the others are below their average, not so ridiculous now huh?
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