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**chiefforlife** · 08:38 AM

Bernard Pollard didn't like Chiefs' coaches' cursing
Posted by Michael David Smith on November 8, 2009 9:17 AM ET
Texans safety Bernard Pollard started all 16 games for the Chiefs in 2008, but he ended up in Houston after Kansas City cut him just before the start of the 2009 season.

Pollard describes getting cut by the Chiefs as a shock, but he says he thinks he knows what the problem was: He wouldn't put up with new coach Todd Haley and his staff cursing him out.

"With professional athletes, you're dealing with grown men. You're not dealing with boys," Pollard tells the Journal Gazette. "You're not in a locker room with sophomores in high school. You're dealing with grown men with families. I have a wife. I have a son. And I have a daughter on the way. I'm not going to sit there and let you curse me out when you feel like cursing me out or talk to me any way you want to talk to me, and you just want me to sit and take it and say, 'Yes, coach.'"

As ArrowheadPride.com notes, Pollard had a shouting match with Chiefs defensive coordinator Clancy Pendergast during training camp, leading to Pollard being sent off the field. Apparently that was not just one isolated incident.

But from Pollard's perspective, it's all worked out. Now he's a starter in Houston.

"I respect others because that's what I want in return," Pollard says. "It was shocking to get let go, but I'm a Texan, and I'm happy to be one."

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...aches-cursing/

Hog's Gone Fishin · 11-08-2009, 11:47 AM

It's too bad Pollard was the only one on the team with balls enough to say **** you back. I guess the Brian waters incident should have been the writing on the wall but everybody just wanted to call him a cry baby.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 11-08-2009, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by chief103182

Okay, I think you're exaggerating. Pollard is not a "quality" player. He's average at his best. We couldn't even get a seventh rounder out of the guy.

Yeah , and Now that he is in a system with a REAL coaching staff he's flourishing.

****ing idiots !

ILChief · 11-08-2009, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

So, do you like Mike Brown constantly being out of position and taking terrible angles?

no, he sucks too. i can't tell a difference between the two

LaChapelle · 11-08-2009, 11:52 AM

Pollard's problem wasn't the yelling. It was the atta boys the other players got when they got a play right.

**Bwana** · 11-08-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ILChief

i can't tell a difference between the two

Brown doesn't go around crying to the media like a little bitch?

Hog's Gone Fishin · 11-08-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ILChief

no, he sucks too. i can't tell a difference between the two

Then your and idiot !

**The Bad Guy** · 11-08-2009, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

You can still be a disciplinarian and not be an inveterate one who sucks the penis. It's not that hard to comprehend. Firm, but fair.

And again, how do we know Haley isn't fair? Because Bernard Pollard in training camp said so?

jspchief · 11-08-2009, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

What approach should he have used here?

Herm tried the fatherly figure. Didn't work.

Dick tried the loving grandfather angle. Didn't work.

How can you change a culture in a place that has needed a change for 10 years without being an asshole?

Marty was a real asshole when he came here in 1989, but no one was freaking out about it.

This place definitely needs a culture change. I'm just not convinced Haley's approach is gonna work. The team needs to be built. We're not talking about a group of underachievers that need their fires stoked.

As for what was happening when Marty came in, I don't know. I didn't frequent football message boards in 1989.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-08-2009, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

And again, how do we know Haley isn't fair? Because Bernard Pollard in training camp said so?

Tiger's Fan · 11-08-2009, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Good God, you are one useless dumb****.

Care to elaborate, or are you just going to mimic your g/fs?

WilliamTheIrish · 11-08-2009, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

What approach should he have used here?

Herm tried the fatherly figure. Didn't work.

Dick tried the loving grandfather angle. Didn't work.

How can you change a culture in a place that has needed a change for 10 years without being an asshole?

Marty was a real asshole when he came here in 1989, but no one was freaking out about it.

Many of the players cried like little bitches when Marty arrived. Albert Lewis hated Carl from day 1.
Of course, two years prior to Marty's arrival the players had a meeting and threatened a mutiny if they didn't keep the fighter pilot. Look what that got us.

Good luck, 'Nard. I think you suck but if you need to be hugged, I hope that eases the sting of being a marginal player.

Just Passin' By · 11-08-2009, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

This place definitely needs a culture change. I'm just not convinced Haley's approach is gonna work. The team needs to be built. We're not talking about a group of underachievers that need their fires stoked.

As for what was happening when Marty came in, I don't know. I didn't frequent football message boards in 1989.

This is the same argument that happens every time a 'mean' guy gets a coaching job. People like to pretend that guys like Parcells, Belichick, Coughlin and Cowher don't exist, or they try to trot out "Yeah, but..." arguments.

-King- · 11-08-2009, 11:57 AM

Now when Pollard has a bad play, the coach says, "Aw Golly Gee, we'll get them next time chap." And the coach gives him a hug and a lollipop.

-King- · 11-08-2009, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

And

Hog's Gone Fishin · 11-08-2009, 12:00 PM

And Derrick Johnson who has more natural talent than 90 % of the team rides the bench because he's not part of the right 53. I'm ready to call for Haley's head . His ego will never let him be successful.

11-08-2009, 08:37 AM
chiefforlife Colorado Chief Fan Join Date: Feb 2006 Casino cash: $5493147	Pollard didnt like being cursed out. Bernard Pollard didn't like Chiefs' coaches' cursing Posted by Michael David Smith on November 8, 2009 9:17 AM ET Texans safety Bernard Pollard started all 16 games for the Chiefs in 2008, but he ended up in Houston after Kansas City cut him just before the start of the 2009 season. Pollard describes getting cut by the Chiefs as a shock, but he says he thinks he knows what the problem was: He wouldn't put up with new coach Todd Haley and his staff cursing him out. "With professional athletes, you're dealing with grown men. You're not dealing with boys," Pollard tells the Journal Gazette. "You're not in a locker room with sophomores in high school. You're dealing with grown men with families. I have a wife. I have a son. And I have a daughter on the way. I'm not going to sit there and let you curse me out when you feel like cursing me out or talk to me any way you want to talk to me, and you just want me to sit and take it and say, 'Yes, coach.'" As ArrowheadPride.com notes, Pollard had a shouting match with Chiefs defensive coordinator Clancy Pendergast during training camp, leading to Pollard being sent off the field. Apparently that was not just one isolated incident. But from Pollard's perspective, it's all worked out. Now he's a starter in Houston. "I respect others because that's what I want in return," Pollard says. "It was shocking to get let go, but I'm a Texan, and I'm happy to be one." http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...aches-cursing/ Last edited by chiefforlife; 11-08-2009 at 08:38 AM.. Reason: add link
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LaChapelle Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $10004900	Pollard's problem wasn't the yelling. It was the atta boys the other players got when they got a play right.
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Hog's Gone Fishin Fish are scared of me Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1449523	And Derrick Johnson who has more natural talent than 90 % of the team rides the bench because he's not part of the right 53. I'm ready to call for Haley's head . His ego will never let him be successful.
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