Chiefs What position do we need the most in the first round? - Page 16

googlegoogle · 11-08-2009, 04:19 PM

Half of you were saying LT.

Is that still true?

Dline?

terrysheafanclub · 11-09-2009, 03:09 PM

Trade down and get a OT and DE in the first round

**BossChief** · 11-09-2009, 03:15 PM

I think Berry is the best choice basically because of public opinion/need. I have only seen him in a couple games and was impressed. He seems like a playmaker in the mold of a Ed Reed and that is undeniable. We also badly need a playmaking type of safety to round out our secondary to eliminate the weakest link.

If I am going off what I have seen, and truly saying BPA, I have to say SUH. I have seen a bunch of dlinemen over the years come and go and Suh is, by far I might add, the absolute best dlinemen I have seen in college. He reminds me of watching the greats like Bruce Smith and Reggie White, he really does. His shortness of lst name could make him a crowd favorite because I can already hear the 85,000 screaming fans yelling SUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. I know it sounds silly, but that kinda stuff makes for crowd favorites. This would mean we would have to move Dorsey to the nose and use him more like a penetrator that a block occupier. If we have the correct staff in place on defense this could make our front three absolutly dominant and able to get pressure without blitzing as much. Suh WILL BE unblockable with one man once he gets up to speed in the NFL and coupled with Dorsey, that could be truly deadly in the playoffs in coming years.

That leaves me with a dilemma, is it truly BPA (IMO Suh) that I support, or do we go with BPA for need?

I am truly torn.

GordonGekko · 11-09-2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by terrysheafanclub

Trade down and get a OT and DE in the first round

Yea I am all for trading down as well and picking up additional picks. The Chiefs are noteworthy for having horrible drafts so the more picks we get the better our odds that one, maybe two might work out. No more LSU players, either. The offensive line needs addressing and it is up to the front office to either find the most effective way to address the issue, be it the draft or free agency. We need playmakers on D so I support trade down and take stud S or LB and then pretty much draft OL the rest of the draft unless someone of intrinsic value falls to one of our picks and is too much to pass up. Don't draft a WR in the first round either, as too many of them bust. We need to develop players, look at Austin in Dallas as an example, a guy that goes undrafted and completely changes the dynamic of a pretty decent offense, and thus the team. Kind of like Joe Horn when he was here...

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-09-2009, 03:16 PM

USE EVERY PICK ON O-LINE ELEVENTY!!!1111!!!!@

chiefs1111 · 11-09-2009, 03:21 PM

our first pick needs to be a play maker,a game changer. Not another reach

milkman · 11-09-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

They wouldn't had any, maybe a slim Baltimore Ravens of 2000 shot. Its sad when an old broke dick Montana gave us the best shot at a Super Bowl.

The trade for Montana, in and of itself, wasn't a mistake, so much as not ensuring we had a quility backup, with a future at the position, behind him.

And no, Dave Kreig was not that guy.

Had they made the trade for Montana, and signed Steve Buerlein (who was available) in free agency to back up and learn from the best, we would have been in far better shape moving forwaed.

DumbHillbillies · 11-09-2009, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I think Berry is the best choice basically because of public opinion/need. I have only seen him in a couple games and was impressed. He seems like a playmaker in the mold of a Ed Reed and that is undeniable. We also badly need a playmaking type of safety to round out our secondary to eliminate the weakest link.

If I am going off what I have seen, and truly saying BPA, I have to say SUH. I have seen a bunch of dlinemen over the years come and go and Suh is, by far I might add, the absolute best dlinemen I have seen in college. He reminds me of watching the greats like Bruce Smith and Reggie White, he really does. His shortness of lst name could make him a crowd favorite because I can already hear the 85,000 screaming fans yelling SUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. I know it sounds silly, but that kinda stuff makes for crowd favorites. This would mean we would have to move Dorsey to the nose and use him more like a penetrator that a block occupier. If we have the correct staff in place on defense this could make our front three absolutly dominant and able to get pressure without blitzing as much. Suh WILL BE unblockable with one man once he gets up to speed in the NFL and coupled with Dorsey, that could be truly deadly in the playoffs in coming years.

That leaves me with a dilemma, is it truly BPA (IMO Suh) that I support, or do we go with BPA for need?

I am truly torn.

Like the ideal of suh but can't see dorsey at nose under any circumstances. Actually, pioli can't go wrong this year we need everything.

**The Bad Guy** · 11-09-2009, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DumbHillbillies

Like the ideal of suh but can't see dorsey at nose under any circumstances. Actually, pioli can't go wrong this year we need everything.

He must certainly can.

He can take Okung and then I'll freak out.

DaKernal · 11-09-2009, 06:09 PM

Question(unless it's already been asked): Who do we take if we end up with the #1 overall pick

**BossChief** · 11-09-2009, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

He must certainly can.

He can take Okung and then I'll freak out.

why you have to go say that shit? Now you know jwhit is gonna go clue in Pioli as to how to piss off the fan base further and "thow shall be done"

THE DEAL IS DONE!!!

BigChiefFan · 11-09-2009, 06:23 PM

Suh is probably the best player in the nation. I know his position would be redundant here, but he's my clear-cut favorite as number one pick overall.

CoMoChief · 11-09-2009, 06:48 PM

Here's what I think we would need. Granted some FA's are just stop gaps

FA - NT Wilfork <==== 1st priority

FA - LB:
Shawn Merriman
Carlos Dansby
James Harrison**
Lofa Tatupu**
Derrick Johnson (do we re-sign him?)
** Current teams probably re-sign them.

FA - OL:
Logan Mankins
Winston Justice
Chad Clifton
Alex Barron
John Tait

FA - WR
Steve Breaston
Vincent Jackson**
Lee Evans
**current team probably re-signs him

2010 Draft
Rd 1 - Mays
Rd 2 - OL
Rd 2 - OL
Rd 3 - WR Gilyard, Univ of Cincy

CoMoChief · 11-09-2009, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs09

Question(unless it's already been asked): Who do we take if we end up with the #1 overall pick

try hard as **** to trade down.

**Rausch** · 11-09-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

try hard as **** to trade down.

Trade down, period.

Yes, you take less than textbook value and add picks...

Fairplay · 11-09-2009, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Trade down, period.

Yes, you take less than textbook value and add picks...

Yes i agree. Look what has happened the last two years.

I rest my case.

11-08-2009, 04:19 PM
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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1545912	I think Berry is the best choice basically because of public opinion/need. I have only seen him in a couple games and was impressed. He seems like a playmaker in the mold of a Ed Reed and that is undeniable. We also badly need a playmaking type of safety to round out our secondary to eliminate the weakest link. If I am going off what I have seen, and truly saying BPA, I have to say SUH. I have seen a bunch of dlinemen over the years come and go and Suh is, by far I might add, the absolute best dlinemen I have seen in college. He reminds me of watching the greats like Bruce Smith and Reggie White, he really does. His shortness of lst name could make him a crowd favorite because I can already hear the 85,000 screaming fans yelling SUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. I know it sounds silly, but that kinda stuff makes for crowd favorites. This would mean we would have to move Dorsey to the nose and use him more like a penetrator that a block occupier. If we have the correct staff in place on defense this could make our front three absolutly dominant and able to get pressure without blitzing as much. Suh WILL BE unblockable with one man once he gets up to speed in the NFL and coupled with Dorsey, that could be truly deadly in the playoffs in coming years. That leaves me with a dilemma, is it truly BPA (IMO Suh) that I support, or do we go with BPA for need? I am truly torn. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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11-09-2009, 06:48 PM	#237
CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $7712254	Here's what I think we would need. Granted some FA's are just stop gaps FA - NT Wilfork <==== 1st priority FA - LB: Shawn Merriman Carlos Dansby James Harrison Lofa Tatupu Derrick Johnson (do we re-sign him?) Current teams probably re-sign them. FA - OL: Logan Mankins Winston Justice Chad Clifton Alex Barron John Tait FA - WR Steve Breaston Vincent Jackson Lee Evans **current team probably re-signs him 2010 Draft Rd 1 - Mays Rd 2 - OL Rd 2 - OL Rd 3 - WR Gilyard, Univ of Cincy
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