NFL Draft The Chiefs are now about 8th in draft order. What if the safeties are off the board? - Page 4

Direckshun · 11-23-2009, 02:54 PM

There are more than two teams who need safety ahead of us, and you know the Raiders are going to go for Mays.

So... in the likely event that, at 8, the Chiefs cannot get Berry or Mays, who do you go for?

Also likely off the board by #8: Suh, Okung, and a couple QBs that we're not going to want anyway.

I ask because I really don't like our non-safety options in the Top 10.

Carlos Dunlap or Gerald McCoy for DE?

Reach for Terrance Cody?

Bruce Campbell for RT?

Joe Haden or Donovan Warren opposite Flowers?

Damien Williams or Dez Bryant opposite Bowe?

You'd have to guess Pioli would go defensive line, given these options. I'm guessing a reach for Cody or a more value-oriented pick for Dunlap or McCoy would be most likely.

Hard to say no to Bryant opposite Bowe, however.

**SAUTO** · 11-23-2009, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Dez Bryant making a case for being the most overrated player in the draft.

He's not big, not fast, and runs poor routes. Sounds like a recipe for NFL domination!

I see Mays as more of a mid-1st round pick.

McClain could be an option in the 8-12 range. Also wouldn't be surprised if a guy like Brandon Graham or Jerry Hughes makes a push for the top 10-15 if they test well.

hmmm the same things were said about crabtree.

**The Franchise** · 11-23-2009, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

hmmm the same things were said about crabtree.

Yep...he's done really well.

**SAUTO** · 11-23-2009, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Yep...he's done really well.

have you actually watched him play? he missed all of TC and has only played in lie 5 games and has 22 catches for 292 yards, not too bad considering

**The Franchise** · 11-23-2009, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

have you actually watched him play?

Considering I live in the Bay area.....yeah I've seen him play.

**SAUTO** · 11-23-2009, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Considering I live in the Bay area.....yeah I've seen him play.

ok so 5 games 22 catches 292 yards AFTER no tc and missing the first 5 weeks. not bad considering

**Kyle DeLexus** · 11-23-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

ok so 5 games 22 catches 292 yards AFTER no tc and missing the first 5 weeks. not bad considering

I think Crabtree will be a solid #2 or a below to average #1. The way he was hyped though, you'd think he was a Megatron or Larry Fitz kind of player that will flat out dominate.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 11-23-2009, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle DeLexus

I think Crabtree will be a solid #2 or a below to average #1. The way he was hyped though, you'd think he was a Megatron or Larry Fitz kind of player that will flat out dominate.

And IMO, he's a better prospect than Bryant is.

Guys like Megatron, Andre Johnson and Fitz are rare - and there's no one in this WR class that even remotely compares.

**Rausch** · 11-23-2009, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

What if the safeties are off the board?

I'm ok with that...

scho63 · 11-23-2009, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Uhmm...oh boy.....Do you realize that most of our big plays on D occur because or poor safety play? Do you realize that that the middle of the field is left wide open every sunday because our safety's have to play so far back due to there lack of speed?

ever thought about the fact that our CB's can't play a lot of press coverage because they dont get adequate safety help over the top?

ever thought about the fact that we allow large run plays because or safety's are out or position often?

you do realize that Safety's often call the assignments/plays in the secondary right?

You don't think a pro-bowl talent player could make a huge difference for this D?

I'm not saying we couldn't use a safety but we can't go another year with the Swiss Cheese O-Line we have. Cassell will be dead by game 6.
Need protection, need to open holes, need to stop getting a million penalties.
That is priority #1

I think we can get a good safety via trade or free agency.

**the Talking Can** · 11-23-2009, 06:34 PM

i'd rather take Spiller than any WR in the first round, if we take a skill position

this is a strong draft, we'll have a shot at a good player no matter where we are...

we may even be in a better position for a trade if we're around 10, as none of the QBs are surefire top 10 picks, imo...

plus, there is a chance Mays is available as low as 12-15, and several interesting LBs going lower as well.......

**The Franchise** · 11-23-2009, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63

I'm not saying we couldn't use a safety but we can't go another year with the Swiss Cheese O-Line we have. Cassell will be dead by game 6.
Need protection, need to open holes, need to stop getting a million penalties.
That is priority #1

I think we can get a good safety via trade or free agency.

And you can draft offensive lineman later than the 1st round.

**Kyle DeLexus** · 11-23-2009, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

And IMO, he's a better prospect than Bryant is.

Guys like Megatron, Andre Johnson and Fitz are rare - and there's no one in this WR class that even remotely compares.

I agree 100%....next years WR class could be interesting though.

Titty Meat · 11-23-2009, 06:37 PM

#8 is a good pick to trade wonder if the niners will trade up for a QB? I'd say trade down draft Cody or McClain.

DrRyan · 11-23-2009, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63

Who the hell wants to draft a safety first? That's the dumbest thing I've heard on this board. Are you really Al Davis in disguise?

We need O-Lineman so bad it's not funny. I would use our first two picks and maybe a
4th or 5th rounder. At least 3 out of the top 5 picks.
We still need a reliable return man. Charles will be worn down if he has to do it all the time. Then maybe a safety with a 4th pick at the earliest. And a run stopper in the middle of the LB's.

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Originally Posted by scho63

I'm not saying we couldn't use a safety but we can't go another year with the Swiss Cheese O-Line we have. Cassell will be dead by game 6.
Need protection, need to open holes, need to stop getting a million penalties.
That is priority #1

I think we can get a good safety via trade or free agency.

Name for me your top five NFL offensive lines. Then, tell me how many of them have multiple first round picks. I have not done all the research, but I am willing to bet you will not find many, if any, at all. The reason you will not find many is that you can find quality, even Pro Bowl offensive linemen in rounds 2-4.

In the first round you have to take an impact player. A playmaker. Period.

scho63 · 11-23-2009, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

And you can draft offensive lineman later than the 1st round.

If another Eugene Monroe or Ryan Clady were available for our first pick, would you pass them up for a safety??? I wouldn't but that's just my opinion.

11-23-2009, 02:54 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	The Chiefs are now about 8th in draft order. What if the safeties are off the board? There are more than two teams who need safety ahead of us, and you know the Raiders are going to go for Mays. So... in the likely event that, at 8, the Chiefs cannot get Berry or Mays, who do you go for? Also likely off the board by #8: Suh, Okung, and a couple QBs that we're not going to want anyway. I ask because I really don't like our non-safety options in the Top 10. Carlos Dunlap or Gerald McCoy for DE? Reach for Terrance Cody? Bruce Campbell for RT? Joe Haden or Donovan Warren opposite Flowers? Damien Williams or Dez Bryant opposite Bowe? You'd have to guess Pioli would go defensive line, given these options. I'm guessing a reach for Cody or a more value-oriented pick for Dunlap or McCoy would be most likely. Hard to say no to Bryant opposite Bowe, however.
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Titty Meat Inmem 2.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: My house Casino cash: $-1092442	#8 is a good pick to trade wonder if the niners will trade up for a QB? I'd say trade down draft Cody or McClain.
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