NFL Draft The Chiefs are now about 8th in draft order. What if the safeties are off the board?

**DaKCMan AP** · 11-23-2009, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

Giants= no 1st round and one hi 2nd
5 U U hi2 3

Cowboys = two 1st and two hi 2nd
hi2 7 hi2 1 1

Vikings = two 1st
1 1 6 U 2

Saints (anomaly) = no 1st one hi 2nd
4 5 5 4 hi2

Ravens = two 1st
5 1 6 2 1

SOOOO it looks like it pays to have two 1st rounders and at least one high 2nd on your oline.. not saying you have to draft them to get them though....

One of the Cowboy's 1st rounders you're counting is Leonard Davis who was a BUST at tackle in Arizona and has salvaged his career in Dallas at guard.

**AustinChief** · 11-23-2009, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

One of the Cowboy's 1st rounders you're counting is Leonard Davis who was a BUST at tackle in Arizona and has salvaged his career in Dallas at guard.

As i said, didn't say we had to DRAFT them, just said the data seems to support that having 2 or 3 high 2nd or 1st rounders pays obvious dividends (well duh.)

**DaKCMan AP** · 11-23-2009, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

As i said, didn't say we had to DRAFT them, just said the data seems to support that having 2 or 3 high 2nd or 1st rounders pays obvious dividends (well duh.)

Well, based upon that criteria we're half way there.

**AustinChief** · 11-23-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Well, based upon that criteria we're half way there.

I would have no problem drafting an OT in the 1st if we fall out of the top 10... but if we are in the top 10 and take a true playmaker then I definitely want to use or 2nd on a o-lineman UNLESS we swing someone like Mankins via free agency.

Perfect world for me would see us sign a Mankins type player then draft Berry, Mays, Graham or Hughes then take someone like Charlie Brown in the 2nd.

DrRyan · 11-23-2009, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

I would have no problem drafting an OT in the 1st if we fall out of the top 10... but if we are in the top 10 and take a true playmaker then I definitely want to use or 2nd on a o-lineman UNLESS we swing someone like Mankins via free agency.

Perfect world for me would see us sign a Mankins type player then draft Berry, Mays, Graham or Hughes then take someone like Charlie Brown in the 2nd.

Charlie Brown??? Do we have to take Lucy to keep pulling the football away from us as we are trying to kick?

milkman · 11-24-2009, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

I would have no problem drafting an OT in the 1st if we fall out of the top 10... but if we are in the top 10 and take a true playmaker then I definitely want to use or 2nd on a o-lineman UNLESS we swing someone like Mankins via free agency.

Perfect world for me would see us sign a Mankins type player then draft Berry, Mays, Graham or Hughes then take someone like Charlie Brown in the 2nd.

I wouldn't mind signing Mankins, but I would rather draft Berry, Hughes, Kris O'Dowd and Jason Fox.

I like Fox's athleticism combined with his strength better than Brown.

scho63 · 11-23-2009, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

One of the Cowboy's 1st rounders you're counting is Leonard Davis who was a BUST at tackle in Arizona and has salvaged his career in Dallas at guard.

If you look at those 5 teams, they had quite a few #1's that just retired in the last year or so. May be cyclical for them. Flozell Adams was a 2nd round pick but was Dallas' first pick in the draft

**SAUTO** · 11-23-2009, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

One of the Cowboy's 1st rounders you're counting is Leonard Davis who was a BUST at tackle in Arizona and has salvaged his career in Dallas at guard.

What does that have to do with anything? he was a 1st round pick

**DaKCMan AP** · 11-23-2009, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

What does that have to do with anything? he was a 1st round pick

Are you advocating that we draft a guard with our likely top-10 pick?

**SAUTO** · 11-23-2009, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Are you advocating that we draft a guard with our likely top-10 pick?

no. how did what i posted say that? the actual question is how many of those teams' linemen were 1st rounders and davis was a first rounder, right?

**DaKCMan AP** · 11-23-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

no. how did what i posted say that? the actual question is how many of those teams' linemen were 1st rounders and davis was a first rounder, right?

That's great. I'm merely pointing out that Leonard Davis is not a prime example for drafting an offensive lineman in the top 10.

**SAUTO** · 11-23-2009, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

That's great. I'm merely pointing out that Leonard Davis is not a prime example for drafting an offensive lineman in the top 10.

i agree but he fits the "drafted in the first round" criteria

milkman · 11-24-2009, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

What does that have to do with anything? he was a 1st round pick

It has to do with the fact that we are discussing potentially a high first round pick on an O-Lineman.

The fact that youy can pick up another team's OT bust and salvage his career at a lower priority position actually lends itself to the argument that you don't need to spend first day picks on O-Line.

We have our first round LT.

We need to let him grow into the position before we go spending a high pick on another LT, and frankly, there isn't a LT in this draft that I would take in the high first round.