Orakpo - 4 sacks on the day, 12 on the year

[The Franchise]

Oh....and for what it's worth......if we didn't trade for Cassel....we could have ended up with this.

1st - Mark Sanchez, QB
2nd - Ron Brace, NT
3rd - Alex Magee, DE

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Oh....and for what it's worth......if we didn't trade for Cassel....we could have ended up with this.

1st - Mark Sanchez, QB
2nd - Ron Brace, NT
3rd - Alex Magee, DE

So gross.............

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Oh....and for what it's worth......if we didn't trade for Cassel....we could have ended up with this.

1st - Mark Sanchez, QB
2nd - Ron Brace, NT
3rd - Alex Magee, DE

You know, I still probably wouldn't want Sanchez over Cassel. Sanchez started out w/ three good games and he's been worse than Jamarcus Russell ever since. At least we know Cassell had a year where he was a serviceable QB for New England. We know that Sanchez sucks.

[wild1]

Originally Posted by BWillie007

You know, I still probably wouldn't want Cassell over Sanchez. Sanchez started out w/ three good games and he's been worse than Jamarcus Russell ever since. At least we know Cassell had a year where he was a serviceable QB for New England. We know that Sanchez sucks.

We don't know that Sanchez will always suck any more than we know if Cassel will suck for the rest of his career.

Sanchez is sucking on a better offense, but he probably still has more upside. Cassel hasn't had a good year, but with a decent offense he played fairly well last season.

I don't think there is a clear favorite at this point in their careers between the two.

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by wild1

We don't know that Sanchez will always suck any more than we know if Cassel will suck for the rest of his career.

Sanchez is on a better offense, but he probably still has more upside. Cassel hasn't had a good year, but with a decent offense he played fairly well last season.

I don't think there is a clear favorite at this point in their careers between the two.

Cassel still makes the dumbest decisions, he needs to correct that first off

[wild1]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Cassel still makes the dumbest decisions, he needs to correct that first off

Sanchez turned the ball over 20 times in 12 games, before finding himself on the bench.

But I agree. An offensive coordinator, a QB coach, and an offensive line might go a long way to helping with that.

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by wild1

Sanchez turned the ball over 20 times in 12 games, before finding himself on the bench.

they dont want the rookie to continue to struggle and then be destroyed mentally...its probably better he heals up and watches a bit

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by wild1

Sanchez turned the ball over 20 times in 12 games, before finding himself on the bench.

You're honestly going to compare the play of a 21 year old rookie to that of a 27 year old, 5 year veteran?

And FWIW, Cassel now has 17 INT's and has fumbled 13 times.

[wild1]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

You're honestly going to compare the play of a 21 year old rookie to that of a 27 year old, 5 year veteran?

And FWIW, Cassel now has 17 INT's and has fumbled 13 times.

Cassel has only lost 3 fumbles. I didn't count fumbles not lost.

Sanchez is averaging more than 1 interception per game played, and fumbles in virtually every game.

Sanchez: 17INT + 3 fumb lost = 20 Turnovers
Cassel: 13 INT + 3 Fumb lost = 16 Turnovers

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

You're honestly going to compare the play of a 21 year old rookie to that of a 27 year old, 5 year veteran?

And FWIW, Cassel now has 17 INT's and has fumbled 13 times.

Cassel basically is a sophomore quarterback. I don't care how much practice you get, you have to be able to do it in games. And w/ that said - he never started any games until last year, since he was 18. He is going to have a learning curve similar to Sanchez.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by wild1

Sanchez turned the ball over 20 times in 12 games, before finding himself on the bench.

You do realize that Sanchez is hurt.

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by BWillie007

You know, I still probably wouldn't want Cassell over Sanchez. Sanchez started out w/ three good games and he's been worse than Jamarcus Russell ever since. At least we know Cassell had a year where he was a serviceable QB for New England. We know that Sanchez sucks.

lol, i think thats really unfair to judge Sanchez this early. 1 year college starter, starting as a rookie