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**BigRedChief** · 12-23-2009, 11:14 PM

From a private conversation with gblowfish. Posted with permission from gblowfish.

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HI BRC: I think most of the posters on this board think you're a good egg. This whole deal today got way out of hand based on what this thing really was, two angry guys having an exchange. Some of the questions that have been asked, here's some feedback: Jack Harry sent me an email on Monday and asked me if Haley really did this, and to describe what happened. I sent Jack a lengthy explanation and said "you should ask the coach if he had a run in with a fan after the game, and if Coach used an obscene gesture." I also told him that EDITED NAME, sitting next to me, also saw this go down, and he could email EDITED NAME and get his input. EDITED NAME gave the same explanation. Mrs. Blowfish was seated on my right. She also saw this happen, but she's a EDITED PROFESSION, and the last thing I wanted was to get her mixed up in this.

In journalism terms, these are three witnesses too closely related to collaborate the story. I did not ask Jack to talk about this publicly, and I don't think he should have until he had gathered better evidence. I think he should have waited until he could find another positive witnesses to confirm what happened. He did not lie to the public, his commentary was accurate. But neither EDITED NAME or I encouraged him, we just answered his questions the best we could. Apparently the press had not been able to locate anybody else to confirm the story, and probably the only others who saw it happen (it was real fast, just a quick gesture lasted only a second) were the Chiefs own security guys, and they're not going to risk their jobs by ratting out the coach. No photos, no other witnesses, so the easy PR thing is deny everything. And discredit the source of the criticism. No pictures, he said she said, and Game Over.

I see no good in pressing on this any further, unless somebody else can confirm what we saw. It pisses me off that I'm now suspected of being a liar. All I can do is tell the truth, and I've done that since the beginning of this whole mess.

I hope you and the rest of the CP understand while I let this thing play itself out. CP has a great bunch of fans, and are smart enough to know when the PR is being pulled over their eyes. Perhaps you'll welcome me back later and consider my thoughs with an open mind and with reputation in tact. Merry Christmas, the best to you, all the CP and families. Thanks for sticking up for me today. I really appreciate it. George Blowfish

**BigRedChief** · 12-23-2009, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

There had to be cameras down there. Good luck getting the Chiefs to release the tapes. Why would they?

Isn't that stadium owned by the taxpayers? Freedom of Information act applicable?

**Bugeater** · 12-23-2009, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jettio

I remember my kindergarten teacher, Mrs. Longfellow, taught that if you can't say something nice then keep your mouth shut.

I have not always followed that, but here is a real life example of someone creating a lot of grief for himself and others by throwing an unnecessary verbal stone at someone.

Oh please.

FAX · 12-23-2009, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jettio

I remember my kindergarten teacher, Mrs. Longfellow, taught that if you can't say something nice then keep your mouth shut.

I have not always followed that, but here is a real life example of someone creating a lot of grief for himself and others by throwing an unnecessary verbal stone at someone.

Well, Mrs. Longfellow can talk all she wants, but she once called me a fart head.

At the age of 5, the last thing you need is for a lady to call you a fart head. I've shampooed at least 4 times a day ever since. That old bag has cost me a fortune in shampoo.

FAX

Hammock Parties · 12-23-2009, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Isn't that stadium owned by the taxpayers? Freedom of Information act applicable?

But are the cameras a part of the stadium?

**Bwana** · 12-23-2009, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jettio

I remember my kindergarten teacher, Mrs. Longfellow, taught that if you can't say something nice then keep your mouth shut.

I have not always followed that, but here is a real life example of someone creating a lot of grief for himself and others by throwing an unnecessary verbal stone at someone.

**BigRedChief** · 12-23-2009, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

But are the cameras a part of the stadium?

I would say some enterprising journalist reading this should find that out. Would be a national scoup of a story. Nice feather in a reporters resume.

Simply Red · 12-23-2009, 11:42 PM

Jim would love to take part in this, god bless you Logical. Merry Christmas.

**luv** · 12-23-2009, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jettio

I remember my kindergarten teacher, Mrs. Longfellow, taught that if you can't say something nice then keep your mouth shut.

I have not always followed that, but here is a real life example of someone creating a lot of grief for himself and others by throwing an unnecessary verbal stone at someone.

Completely disagree that he brought this on himself. It's a real life example of the telephone game that I played in second grade (since we're going back to grade school). One thing got said, and by the time it gets around, what was originally said got twisted. It's not his fault people are making a big deal out of it. It's also not his fault that Haley would lie about it. How many games have you been to a game where you booed a player, coach, or ref? Wouldn't that also be considered "throwing an unnecessary verbal stone"?

jettio · 12-23-2009, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

There had to be cameras down there. Good luck getting the Chiefs to release the tapes. Why would they?

If we can get 25+ posts about the "tapes" we can get this thread into the hall of classics.

**Rain Man** · 12-23-2009, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater

I feel bad for him, I found myself in a similar situation many years ago and I know what he's going through.

And FWIW, I don't doubt him one bit.

But back then, Todd Haley was in high school so it wasn't as big a deal when he gave you the finger.

**Rain Man** · 12-23-2009, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jettio

If we can get 25+ posts about the "tapes" we can get this thread into the hall of classics.

I'm old enough to know how this works. The tapes get released, they find an 18-minute gap, and no one ever knows the real story and Gerald Ford ends up coaching the Chiefs.

**BigRedChief** · 12-23-2009, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jettio

I remember my kindergarten teacher, Mrs. Longfellow, taught that if you can't say something nice then keep your mouth shut.

I have not always followed that, but here is a real life example of someone creating a lot of grief for himself and others by throwing an unnecessary verbal stone at someone.

Since I have some experience in this matter and the Planet does in this matter maybe we should re-visit how we treat people on here that share information with us.

I posted on here that LJ had a broken bone in his foot. Everybody (Local and national) was reporting it as a sprained abkle. For two full days before any national or local media had the story, the Planet had the story for free with no motivation other than to share info with fellow Chief fans. I was trashed for posting BS, for posting lies, called a liar. Wellll we know how that turned out.....

**DaFace** · 12-23-2009, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Since I have some experience in this matter and the Planet does in this matter maybe we should re-visit how we treat people on here that share information with us.

I posted on here that LJ had a broken bone in his foot. Everybody (Local and national) was reporting it as a sprained abkle. For two full days before any national or local media had the story, the Planet had the story for free with no motivation other than to share info with fellow Chief fans. I was trashed for posting BS, for posting lies, called a liar. Wellll we know how that turned out.....

Liar.

Hammock Parties · 12-23-2009, 11:50 PM

I'm sure "the tapes" have already been destroyed!

kcxiv · 12-23-2009, 11:51 PM

show me some video or a picture or to me it didnt happen. I read on another forum where someone said they were right here as Haley was walking off the field and he didnt flip anyone off.

This is crazy how this thing turned out to be a big issue. lol

12-23-2009, 11:14 PM
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $-601038 VARSITY	A few words from Gblowfish From a private conversation with gblowfish. Posted with permission from gblowfish. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ HI BRC: I think most of the posters on this board think you're a good egg. This whole deal today got way out of hand based on what this thing really was, two angry guys having an exchange. Some of the questions that have been asked, here's some feedback: Jack Harry sent me an email on Monday and asked me if Haley really did this, and to describe what happened. I sent Jack a lengthy explanation and said "you should ask the coach if he had a run in with a fan after the game, and if Coach used an obscene gesture." I also told him that EDITED NAME, sitting next to me, also saw this go down, and he could email EDITED NAME and get his input. EDITED NAME gave the same explanation. Mrs. Blowfish was seated on my right. She also saw this happen, but she's a EDITED PROFESSION, and the last thing I wanted was to get her mixed up in this. In journalism terms, these are three witnesses too closely related to collaborate the story. I did not ask Jack to talk about this publicly, and I don't think he should have until he had gathered better evidence. I think he should have waited until he could find another positive witnesses to confirm what happened. He did not lie to the public, his commentary was accurate. But neither EDITED NAME or I encouraged him, we just answered his questions the best we could. Apparently the press had not been able to locate anybody else to confirm the story, and probably the only others who saw it happen (it was real fast, just a quick gesture lasted only a second) were the Chiefs own security guys, and they're not going to risk their jobs by ratting out the coach. No photos, no other witnesses, so the easy PR thing is deny everything. And discredit the source of the criticism. No pictures, he said she said, and Game Over. I see no good in pressing on this any further, unless somebody else can confirm what we saw. It pisses me off that I'm now suspected of being a liar. All I can do is tell the truth, and I've done that since the beginning of this whole mess. I hope you and the rest of the CP understand while I let this thing play itself out. CP has a great bunch of fans, and are smart enough to know when the PR is being pulled over their eyes. Perhaps you'll welcome me back later and consider my thoughs with an open mind and with reputation in tact. Merry Christmas, the best to you, all the CP and families. Thanks for sticking up for me today. I really appreciate it. George Blowfish
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12-23-2009, 11:42 PM	#37
Simply Red You Sweetie! Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2021206219 VARSITY	Jim would love to take part in this, god bless you Logical. Merry Christmas.
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12-23-2009, 11:50 PM	#44
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $990478	I'm sure "the tapes" have already been destroyed! __________________ Chiefs game films
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12-23-2009, 11:51 PM	#45
kcxiv In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Central Valley, Cali Casino cash: $8697996	show me some video or a picture or to me it didnt happen. I read on another forum where someone said they were right here as Haley was walking off the field and he didnt flip anyone off. This is crazy how this thing turned out to be a big issue. lol
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