What makes you a Matt Cassel fan next season?

[petegz28]

What does he have to do to convince you he is worth the starting spot? I won't say worth the $ cause I don't think that will ever happen but, that being said....

[stevieray]

OC and QB coach.

[carlos3652]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Pass Thrown: Behind line 81 95 741 85.3 7.80 76 3 1 0.0 105.3 0 0 0.0 0 0
Pass Thrown: 1-10 yds. 184 267 1856 68.9 6.95 64 6 2 0.0 92.8 0 0 0.0 0 0
Pass Thrown: 11-20 yds. 54 116 825 46.6 7.11 37 8 6 0.0 72.0 0 0 0.0 0 0
Pass Thrown: 21-30 yds. 6 18 172 33.3 9.56 51 3 1 0.0 86.1 0 0 0.0 0 0
Pass Thrown: 31-40 yds. 1 14 33 7.1 2.36 33 0 0 0.0 39.6 0 0 0.0 0 0
Pass Thrown: 41+ yds. 1 6 66 16.7 11.00 66 1 1 0.0 72.9 0 0 0.0 0 0

2-20 on passes over 30 yards.

62/154 for a 40% completion percentage.

20% of his passing yardage came from passes originating from behind the LOS.

70% of his passing yardage came from passes thrown 10 yards or less.

Those stats brought to you by BossChief and OTW.

So the guy completes 66% of his passes from BLOS-20 yards and we are complaining why?

cause he only chucked it past 30 20 times... in 16 games...

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by el borracho

Matt Cassel would have to

a. become a hell of a lot better on the deep ball and
b. be more accurate, in general

Of course, neither of those things will happen so I guess I'll settle for sucking enough that all future hope is cast aside and we (finally!) draft a legit QB prospect.

You do realize that the chance to draft a legit QB may be greater this draft than next? We are at #5 right now. We improve a couple three games next season and we are drafting 12-18 range, and chance of getting Locker are nil.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

He does NOT have the arm to do so, which is why he had to punt wobble ducks to Chambers this year.

Remember Rodgers' overthrow in OT yesterday? Cassel cannot make that throw.

I disagree. The guy overthrew Moss routinely last year and overthrew lots of deep balls this year as well. He has the arm strength to do so, he just doesnt have the confidence. Confidencce is HUGE to a qbs play, it effeccts everything he does.

He may never be more than below average at it, but it wont be because he cant throw far enough. This is not saying that he didnt throw some passes that looked like punts, he surely did. It is saying that he also threw some nice ones and a good qb coach will take his strengths and emphasize them, I think Charlie will get him where he needs to be mentally to be much improved.

The td pass to Catille was a thing of beauty. How do you explain that pass if he doesn't have the arm strength?

I dont expect it to happen overnight.

Originally Posted by petegz28

Not saying he was stellar, but his stats would be markedly better had WR's not dropped 4+ passes a game.

this

Some of you have no idea what its like to get murdered to get a pass to a catchable spot only to have it dropped. It makes you stop trusting that receiver as much next time and to look elsewhere. Unfortunately for us, EVERYONE was dropping passes last year and that makes it harder to fairly judge anyone that was throwing the passes.

Take away half of those drops and his completion percentage jumps to 60% and his passes over 10 yards jump to 40% (Tom Brady this year was only at 45% with Moss to throw to and he is a HOF quality QB) I have faith that when he develops chemistry with his receivers and the oline is improved to give him some amount of consistency with his followthrough, along with the massive upgrade in coaching talent guiding his play..he will improve quite a bit.

Last year was like the perfect storm for a qb. No QB coach, no OC, below average line, crap receivers, half a year with a completely ineffective RB, record breaking dropped passes, rookie coaching staff, new offense installed a couple weeks before the regular season started...you get the picture.

Cassel may end up sucking the big fat one again, but there are reasons to be hopeful he may not suck as much.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Coogs

Don't even go there. Rodgers look like a HOFer compared to Cassel, and Rodgers may have had a worse O-line.

How much better would Cassel be with that all star receiving corps? Literally speaking, their third receiver is better than anyone other than Bowe on our roster.

Give Aaron Rodgers our receivers and he might look awfully pedestrian.

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Where can one find the stats based on length of throw?

Heres a link.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/player...644&sYear=2008

That is a link to his 08 stats broken down in MANY ways. This is the page that made me want NO PART of him pre-trade. If you want to, you can change the year to get this years breakdown and then crunch the #s yourself.

Very useful site.

[el borracho]

Originally Posted by Coogs

You do realize that the chance to draft a legit QB may be greater this draft than next? We are at #5 right now. We improve a couple three games next season and we are drafting 12-18 range, and chance of getting Locker are nil.

We could easily draft top 6 or 8 in 2012 which should be enough to get a legit prospect.

[Mecca]

Arm strength isn't about distance, it's about zip and velocity...the reason Cassel overthrows guys is because he throws that lollypop long pass which means his arm isn't strong.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by BossChief

The td pass to Catille was a thing of beauty. How do you explain that pass if he doesn't have the arm strength?

I explain it as a 20-yard pass, which it was. It's not like that was exactly a rope.

If he has the arm strength to throw downfield convincingly, how do you explain the numerous "strikes" to Chambers?

[BossChief]

Do you guys look at everything in your lives as hopelessly as you look at issues regarding your favorite football team?

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Arm strength isn't about distance, it's about zip and velocity...the reason Cassel overthrows guys is because he throws that lollypop long pass which means his arm isn't strong.

You're hitting on what has IMO kept Cassel from looking as good as he can... Confidence, confidence in what is happening in front of him, confidence that his WR's will grab it more often than not.

His arm (wow i'm so sick of this phrase, yet true) 'is what it is'... but more time & continuity here will definitely help him make his throws with more 'zip' & decisiveness.

Can he be the guy $60 some mill should buy? based on pure arm talent, IMO NO, its impossible for me atleast, to argue that. But, more pieces in place, time & Confidence will boost his highly competitive nature & decision making IMO.

I could b*tch about not having a random Heyseuss .2 here as well, but Matt Cassel is here right now, for now i just want to help the guy...

what other choice is there?

[Reerun_KC]

I will be a Cassel fan becaue its not the "cool" thing to do...

So many freak out and nick pick everything from how he combs his hair to what knots he ties in cleats on game day...

So just be out of the norm and not follow the cool crowd.. I am rooting for Matt Cassel.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Arm strength isn't about distance, it's about zip and velocity...the reason Cassel overthrows guys is because he throws that lollypop long pass which means his arm isn't strong.

When you watch him look for how he overcompensates his follow through when he has to place the ball where it's "suppose" to be. He doesn't have a good foundation when he sets up to throw. Cassel swings his right rear leg like a center fielder during his windup as if he is straining to get the ball to the WR.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Cassel swings his right rear leg

Cassel has two right legs?

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Cassel has two right legs?

his posting leg is his left one, which I'm implying that he is a right handed QB.

[el borracho]

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Cassel has two right legs?

Oooh, look who is excited at the idea of a third leg.