Chiefs What makes you a Matt Cassel fan next season? - Page 10

**petegz28** · 01-11-2010, 07:07 PM

What does he have to do to convince you he is worth the starting spot? I won't say worth the $ cause I don't think that will ever happen but, that being said....

BradyFTW! · 01-12-2010, 01:49 AM

Cassel is still a young, inexperienced QB, and Weis is a great coordinator for young QBs. Weis, more than anyone else, was the coach who made young Brady who he was.

TigerPig · 01-12-2010, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

But they don't require high picks to fix, that's the point. Seriously since we're going 3-4 and Albert is on this team the Chiefs should never use a 1st round pick on a lineman on either side.

LTs and DEs DO require high picks! Absolutely! You're right in that we don't need to get any more linemen, but that's ONLY because we've spent every last one of our first round picks in the last two years on them. Now we have them.

58kcfan89 · 01-12-2010, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The guy you quoted specifically referred to the offensive line.

Yes, I think the "other 10 players" significantly affect the QB.

But with that said, I think Percy Harvin and Jamaal Charles would have been a potent combo.

Jamaal Charles & Tyson Jackson? Not so much.

The NFL is about playmakers.

This league is no longer defined by the 'trenches", and Chiefs fans need to realize this is no longer the way to win BIG.

FTR, I didn't quote anyone, I just said that a QB is only as good as his WRs/OL.

As for the playmakers/lines, it goes both ways. I'm not advocating spending another 1st round pick on a lineman, as I agree that this team (specifically, the defense) needs as many playmakers as possible. That being said, if we had Harvin, it would be tough to let him make plays with the way our OL pass-blocked for him during the first 12ish weeks of the year.

I think our LT is set and that's the only OL position worth a first round pick. If we take a defensive playmaker or a WR at 5, I'm fine with it. Any of our line needs can be filled in rounds 2-7 and free agency.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-12-2010, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BradyFTW!

Cassel is still a young, inexperienced QB, and Weis is a great coordinator for young QBs. Weis, more than anyone else, was the coach who made young Brady who he was.

WHAT?

WHAT?

tonyetony · 01-12-2010, 01:54 AM

I want 2 starting OL, including a Center, out of free agency more than you could imagine.

Then we could draft RT, WR, and ILB.

TigerPig · 01-12-2010, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You're confusing the 1980's and 1990's with 2010.

Let us all know when you're up to speed.

Thanks.

You're being patronizing, but I'll bite.

Okay, Chris Johnson, where is his playoff spot? Matt Schaub this year was great, 4500 yards and almost a 100 QB rating...nothing. Andre Johnson or Steve Smith (Giants)?

Gotta have both.

Mecca · 01-12-2010, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerPig

LTs and DEs DO require high picks! Absolutely! You're right in that we don't need to get any more linemen, but that's ONLY because we've spent every last one of our first round picks in the last two years on them. Now we have them.

In this defense using 1st rounders, at least high ones on DE's is kind of a waste.

Mecca · 01-12-2010, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerPig

You're being patronizing, but I'll bite.

Okay, Chris Johnson, where is his playoff spot? Matt Schaub this year was great, 4500 yards and almost a 100 QB rating...nothing. Andre Johnson or Steve Smith (Giants)?

Gotta have both.

Ok in fairness here, Houston would have made the playoffs if their kicker wasn't useless.

TigerPig · 01-12-2010, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Ok in fairness here, Houston would have made the playoffs if their kicker wasn't useless.

Does that mean kickers can be playmakers too?

JOhn · 01-12-2010, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BradyFTW!

Cassel is still a young, inexperienced QB, and Weis is a great coordinator for young QBs. Weis, more than anyone else, was the coach who made young Brady who he was.

tonyetony · 01-12-2010, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

In this defense using 1st rounders, at least high ones on DE's is kind of a waste.

Agreed

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-12-2010, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerPig

You're being patronizing, but I'll bite.

Okay, Chris Johnson, where is his playoff spot? Matt Schaub this year was great, 4500 yards and almost a 100 QB rating...nothing. Andre Johnson or Steve Smith (Giants)?

Gotta have both.

Neither one of those teams had issues with the offensive or defensive lines.

The Titans nearly won out when Vince Young replaced Collins. Last I checked, Young was a QB.

The Texans started out really slow, nearly as slow as the Titans. They have a top flight offense and the Defensive Player of Year on defense.

Personally, I think Kubiak should be fired. Fisher gets a pass, but for not much longer.

And for the record, you proved my point. A top five offensive tackle wouldn't have made a damn bit of difference for either team.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-12-2010, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BradyFTW!

Cassel is still a young, inexperienced QB, and Weis is a great coordinator for young QBs. Weis, more than anyone else, was the coach who made young Brady who he was.

Horseshit

Mecca · 01-12-2010, 02:06 AM

Please Cassel is going to be 28 when next year starts, let's not act like he's Mark Sanchez or something in that area.

Cassel is the same age Roethlisberger is ok, that's where he's at, the he's young excuse isn't playable.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-12-2010, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BradyFTW!

Cassel is still a young, inexperienced QB, and Weis is a great coordinator for young QBs. Weis, more than anyone else, was the coach who made young Brady who he was.

Can we please start loading these Pats dumbasses onto trains and send them to ****ing Buchenwald?

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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-652950	Please Cassel is going to be 28 when next year starts, let's not act like he's Mark Sanchez or something in that area. Cassel is the same age Roethlisberger is ok, that's where he's at, the he's young excuse isn't playable.
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