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**HemiEd** · 12:48 PM

Owners of Toyota Cars in Rebellion Over Series of Accidents Caused by Sudden Acceleration

Anyone else been following this story? They had a pretty graphic show on nightline about it last night.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Runawa...ory?id=8980479

Refusing to accept the explanation of Toyota and the federal government, hundreds of Toyota owners are in rebellion after a series of accidents caused by what they call "runaway cars."

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Department of Transportation: underlying defect causes accelerators to stick.

More PhotosSafety analysts found an estimated 2000 cases in which owners of Toyota cars including Camry, Prius and Lexus, reported that their cars surged without warning up to speeds of 100 miles per hour.

CLICK HERE FOR MORE OF THE RUNAWAY TOYOTAS STORY.

Toyota says the incidents are caused by floor mats becoming stuck under gas pedals, but owners say that's not what happened to them.

Watch the full report tonight on 'World News with Charles Gibson' and 'Nightline'.

"I'm absolutely certain that in my situation, it was not the floor mats," Elizabeth James told ABC News. She was driving her Toyota Prius outside Denver, CO when she says it suddenly shot up to 90 miles an hour, even though her foot was on the brake and not the gas pedal.

"I kept going faster and faster," James said. "And all of a sudden… my foot was pressing on the brake super, super hard and I wasn't slowing down."

James and some other Toyota owners suspect the accidents have been caused by some kind of glitch in the electronic computer system used in Toyotas that controls the throttle.

http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...at-recall.html

Radar Chief · 01-27-2010, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dilligaf

Great. Good luck with YOUR choice. I would buy another Toyota. I have a an 01 Camry that has 153,000 miles on it and drives better than any new Ford. I know this because I was the Business Manager at a Ford dealership up until about 10 months ago. I've driven every model that Ford currently makes. And Ford makes the best domestic car.
No need to respond about how wrong I am. It's my choice of vehicle and you will not change my mind. I have been in car sales for many years and sold for most every brand and Toyota holds up better than most, if not all.

The company I work for has a fleet of Crown Victoria’s all with at least 200K miles, sales men get new cars and we get hand-me-downs, and they’re all holding up very well.

BWillie · 01-27-2010, 03:56 PM

A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.

Radar Chief · 01-27-2010, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007

A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.

Oxygen gets you high. In a catastrophic emergency, you're taking giant panicked breaths. Suddenly you become euphoric, docile. You accept your fate. It's all right here. Emergency water landing - 600 miles an hour. Blank faces, calm as Hindu cows.

**HemiEd** · 01-27-2010, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I got a Saturn and put 80K+ on it before it got totaled.
I had a Ford Explorer with 130K+ miles
I have a Ford Mustang with 86K+ on it.
I recently bought a Lincoln MKX.

I've never had an issue with any of these cars.

I have had the same experience with Chrysler products, but we must be idiots, because it has to be foreign to be any good. Everyone knows that, damn.

Radar Chief · 01-27-2010, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief

The company I work for has a fleet of Crown Victoria’s all with at least 200K miles, sales men get new cars and we get hand-me-downs, and they’re all holding up very well.

My 15 year old Chevy S-10 has over 135K miles on the 4.3L V-6. I need to replace the front brakes and wheel bearings but considering it’s given me 13 years of dependable service with nothing more going wrong with it than having to replace the clutch at ~90K, I can’t complain.

**BigRedChief** · 01-27-2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dilligaf

I have been in car sales for many years and sold for most every brand and Toyota holds up better than most, if not all.

Except for that death causing gas pedal thingy, right?

dilligaf · 01-27-2010, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Except for that death causing gas pedal thingy, right?

Don't park your Ford in the garage, it might burn your house down. Or didn't you hear about that one. Maybe you should talk to the man who bought an F150 from our store a couple years back and keep bringing it back because the fuel tank kept coming loose.

rtmike · 01-27-2010, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dilligaf

Don't park your Ford in the garage, it might burn your house down. Or didn't you hear about that one. Maybe you should talk to the man who bought an F150 from our store a couple years back and keep bringing it back because the fuel tank kept coming loose.

Sounds like incompetent service techs?

Stewie · 01-27-2010, 04:29 PM

2000 "cases" out of 10's of millions of cars sold. Someone's looking for a payday.

dilligaf · 01-27-2010, 04:30 PM

Have I seen Fords, Chevys, and Dodges with over 100,000 miles on them and still going strong? Yes. I seen many more Toyotas and Hondas with over 100,000 miles on them and still going strong? Very much so. Don't mean to hurt peoples feelings, but these are just My experiences.

dilligaf · 01-27-2010, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rtmike

Sounds like incompetent service techs?

Shouldn't have come loose in the first place...don't ya think.

dilligaf · 01-27-2010, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief

The company I work for has a fleet of Crown Victoria’s all with at least 200K miles, sales men get new cars and we get hand-me-downs, and they’re all holding up very well.

Crown Vics were very good cars.

rtmike · 01-27-2010, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dilligaf

Shouldn't have come loose in the first place...don't ya think.

To me, a service tech should have been able to identify why to begin with...dontcha' think?

dilligaf · 01-27-2010, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rtmike

To me, a service tech should have been able to identify why to begin with...dontcha' think?

Might have to late if it fell out before they got it to the service department. Point is, although it will be wasted on you, is that it was a new vehicle.

**HemiEd** · 01-27-2010, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dilligaf

Might have to late if it fell out before they got it to the service department. Point is, although it will be wasted on you, is that it was a new vehicle.

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Originally Posted by dilligaf

the man who bought an F150 from our store a couple years back and keep bringing it back because the fuel tank kept coming loose.

Let me help, you are not close to being consistent here.

The first time was on Ford, any subsequent issues should be on piss poor service. Gas tank attachment is a pretty simple mechanical problem, even a caveman could figure that out.

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