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Old 03-16-2010, 10:17 AM  
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Peter King: The Chiefs will never take a safety that high
I hope that ****nut is wrong but I am sure I will be disappointed if Berry is there and they pass unless they decide to draft Clausen.

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I noticed last night SI's Peter King was tweeting up a storm at his Twitter account about all things football for a few hours. One very interesting observation came out of him that I think would surprise a lot of us here.
Someone suggested the Chiefs trade with the Dolphins, who are in need of a playmaking safety. King, who agreed with a Miami/Kansas City trade scenario, had this to say:
"And KC would never take [safety] that high."
Now, King's one of the best in the business when it comes to sports reporting, especially the NFL and that sounds like a pretty definitive statement.

With that said, I see his logic. Scott Pioli has always struck me as a guy who's more likely to build from the inside out meaning the focus is on the offensive and defensive lines.

Just something to keep in mind as we inch toward April.
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Old 03-16-2010, 11:43 AM   #106
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- And we would then have a #15 (if I remember right) overall pick playing Guard. A position that is routinely filled with mid to late picks by good teams. It's a last resort. That folks means he's a bust.
Seems to me that we used the #15 pick on a guy that played guard.
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Old 03-16-2010, 11:43 AM   #107
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Sorry, it was a high second round pick. Ugoh.
oh yeah.I thought he was a 1st too until I double checked.
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Old 03-16-2010, 11:44 AM   #108
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I like Clausen, but it is INSANE to think that the Chiefs would draft him at #5. And King is probably right about a safety as well. Just not safe enough. Whether or not that is the reality, it is the perception.

Get over it people, we're drafting a OL
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Old 03-16-2010, 11:46 AM   #109
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I remember back when we were stuck in our 7-9, 10-6 decade long rut I would dream of the day when the Chiefs would bottom out, get some top 10 talent at the skill positions and finally have a nucleus to build around.
That's right. Good teams build around the skill positions. Outside in is the only way to do it. That's how all the top teams did it.
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That's right. Good teams build around the skill positions. Outside in is the only way to do it. That's how all the top teams did it.
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Old 03-16-2010, 11:48 AM   #111
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I posted this in another thread:

since 1990, there have been 6 teams that was won a SB with a QB they did not draft:
Ravens (Dilfer), Rams (Warner), Bucs (Johnson), Saints (Brees), Niners (Young), Packers (Favre)

of those, Dilfer, Young were 1st Rd picks (Brees was 32 overall; Favre 33rd overall).

the other 14 Super Bowl winners that drafted a QB, only 2 were not 1st Round picks: Brady & Rypien.


So, of the last 20 SB winners, only 6 were not 1st Round picks.
The 9ers and Packers traded 1st round picks for Young and Favre.
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The 9ers and Packers traded 1st round picks for Young and Favre.
Affirmative.
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Old 03-16-2010, 11:50 AM   #114
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I forgot how many 1st round picks the Saints, Colts, Cardinals, and Steelers spent on their OL.

Of their starters in the SB? 1, a bust (Levi Brown).

At the skill positions:

1st round picks:

Colts: WR: Wayne, Gonzalez
TE: Dallas Clark
RB: Donald Brown, Addai
QB: Manning
DE: Freeney

Saints: WR: Meachem
RB: Bush
CB: Jenkins
DT: Ellis
QB: (Brees was taken with what is now a 1st rounder)
TE: Shockey


Steelers:

WR: Santonio Holmes
TE: Heath Miller
QB: Roethlisberger
S: Polamalu
DT: Hampton

Cardinals:

CB: DRC
S: Rolle
WR: Fitzgerald
DE: Calvin Pace
So, you'd be okay if we draft Jermaine Gresham with our first rounder, because the theme I see here is that the majority of these teams have a high quality tight end. And you yourself just said that the TE position was a play making position. So you'd be happy with Jermaine Gresham then, because I think that a tight end is going to do more for this team than a safety if you are looking at getting the best at each/either position.
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Arizona - 1 OL taken in the 1st since 2000
New Orleans - 1 OL taken in the 1st since (no 1st rounders on SB winning team/offense)
Indy - no OL taken since 2000 (break down since 2000 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 DE, 1 TE, 1 CB)
Pitt - no OL taken in 1st since 1996
Giants - no OL taken in 1st 1988
Pats - no OL taken in 1st since 1999 (Center)
However, if you look at the top three rounds of the draft over the past ten years:

Pittsburgh: 5 offensive linemen taken.
New England: 6 offensive linemen taken.
Saints: 4 offensive linemen taken.
NYG: 4 offensive linemen taken.
Indy: 2 offensive linemen taken.

Chiefs: 1 offensive linemen taken.
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So, you'd be okay if we draft Jermaine Gresham with our first rounder, because the theme I see here is that the majority of these teams have a high quality tight end. And you yourself just said that the TE position was a play making position. So you'd be happy with Jermaine Gresham then, because I think that a tight end is going to do more for this team than a safety if you are looking at getting the best at each/either position.
Way to change the subject after getting your ass handed to you.
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We all know Badfat wants to draft Terrence Cody. He's the biggest cog in this entire draft. The biggest, gooiest, fattest, slowest, squishiest cog. He's perfect for Badfat's draft philosophy.
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Sacs argument is basically just because the good teams do it doesnt make it right
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