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Old 03-21-2010, 08:38 PM   #1
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So basically all this crybaby BULLSHIT stems from Lord Favre not going to the Super Bowl?So WTF would be the big topic now if Lord Favre had made it,then threw that same int and Indy won? What the fugg ever.
Actually, all this BS started when the Chargers beat the Colts in OT several years back and Manning never saw the field.

To which I say, tough shit. Field a better defense.
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Old 03-21-2010, 08:44 PM   #2
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Actually, all this BS started when the Chargers beat the Colts in OT several years back and Manning never saw the field.

To which I say, tough shit. Field a better defense.
Or find a way to win in regulation and not let it come down to a coin toss.
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Old 03-21-2010, 08:45 PM   #3
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Or find a way to win in regulation and not let it come down to a coin toss.
Absolutely.
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Old 03-21-2010, 08:45 PM   #4
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Actually, all this BS started when the Chargers beat the Colts in OT several years back and Manning never saw the field.

To which I say, tough shit. Field a better defense.
Defenses only have 50 yards to defend though. Kickers can kick from 50+ yards these days. Even if a kick return is only 20 yards, then the offense doesn't really need to do that much work to get to field goal range. Just 40-50 yards. It really isn't fair to put a defense in that position IMO.
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Old 03-21-2010, 08:48 PM   #5
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Defenses only have 50 yards to defend though. Kickers can kick from 50+ yards these days. Even if a kick return is only 20 yards, then the offense doesn't really need to do that much work to get to field goal range. Just 40-50 yards. It really isn't fair to put a defense in that position IMO.


Are they part of the ****ing team, or not?

If you can't keep a team from gaining 50 ****ing yards, you don't deserve to win.
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Old 03-21-2010, 08:48 PM   #6
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This rule isn't what exactly what I would propose but it is alot better than the antiquated OT system they have now. Since they have moved kickoff's back and tailored the rules in favor of the O it is only fair that both teams get a chance on offense to score.

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Old 03-21-2010, 08:50 PM   #7
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Defenses only have 50 yards to defend though. Kickers can kick from 50+ yards these days. Even if a kick return is only 20 yards, then the offense doesn't really need to do that much work to get to field goal range. Just 40-50 yards. It really isn't fair to put a defense in that position IMO.
50? More like 20-30. IIRC the average field position is around the 30 yard line.
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Old 03-21-2010, 08:52 PM   #8
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Polian has this right
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"No matter where you came down on the subject," Polian said, "whether you were a pure two-possession guy or a status quo guy, as I was going in, when you saw the statistics broken down from 1994-2009, and you saw the team winning the toss winning 60 percent of the time, and then you saw the accuracy of field-goal kickers, both in distance and accuracy over that period of time, it's obvious that it's game that from 1994 on is very different than what we had prior to 1994," he said. "[Before that], essentially, there was no difference between team winning the toss and losing it."

As Competition Committee co-chair Rich McKay pointed out during a Wednesday conference call, the increase in first-drive field goals traces to the movement of the kickoff point from the 35 to the 30.
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Old 03-21-2010, 08:54 PM   #9
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Polian has this right
Polian should consider fielding a better defense.
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50? More like 20-30. IIRC the average field position is around the 30 yard line.
Quit giving up big returns.
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Old 03-21-2010, 08:55 PM   #11
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Quit giving up big returns.
You realize they moved kickoff's back to promote more kickoff returns because they were exciting?
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Old 03-21-2010, 09:00 PM   #12
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You realize they moved kickoff's back to promote more kickoff returns because they were exciting?
Special teams are part of the ****ing game.

I see returners every week get pinned inside their own 20.

I also see defenses force 3-and-outs or very short drives that force punts.

But sure, let's change the game to make only the offense matter in OT.

Christ, even the Chiefs won a playoff game this year by forcing Pittsburgh to punt, and then scoring.
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Old 03-21-2010, 09:13 PM   #13
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Special teams are part of the ****ing game.

I see returners every week get pinned inside their own 20.

I also see defenses force 3-and-outs or very short drives that force punts.

But sure, let's change the game to make only the offense matter in OT.

Christ, even the Chiefs won a playoff game this year by forcing Pittsburgh to punt, and then scoring.
I realize that but you know that the NFL has tailored alot of the rules to help the offense to score points. Moving the kickoff back was one of those rule changes that is why the stats show there has been an increase in first drive field goals winners.
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Old 03-23-2010, 03:12 PM   #14
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Special teams are part of the ****ing game.

I see returners every week get pinned inside their own 20.

I also see defenses force 3-and-outs or very short drives that force punts.

But sure, let's change the game to make only the offense matter in OT.

Christ, even the Chiefs won a playoff game this year by forcing Pittsburgh to punt, and then scoring.
Do what?
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50? More like 20-30. IIRC the average field position is around the 30 yard line.
Even if the average position is at the 30, it would still make teams go more than 30 yards.

From the 30, if you go 30 yards, then it would be about a 57 yard field goal. Only 1 or 2 kickers can realistically make that really.
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