Chiefs have to decide if No. 5 pick is too high for a safety

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Why is it that all of the arguments against Clausen surround things that are not measurable?

- He isnt a leader
- He is arrogant/cocky
- He hasnt won enough

This would be like responding in a debate with "well you know, I just don't like him"

Isn't the "he hasn't won enough" claim measurable by win-loss record, though?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

Isn't the "he hasn't won enough" claim measurable by win-loss record, though?

Don't worry someone will post the Parcells thing like winning 23 games is some magic number.