Bernard Pollard a predicted Pro Bowler!!

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Mic, or anyone else:

I'd love to hear an argument as to why cutting Bernard Pollard was a good decision. Why cutting him makes us a better team.

I don't know that it was necessarily good or bad for the team.

Tell me why cutting Pollard made the team worse...

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Micjones

I don't know that it was necessarily good or bad for the team.

Tell me why cutting Pollard made the team worse...

I guess you didn't see what he did in Houston?

You think he couldn't have done that in KC with competent coaching?

Pollard was dead ****ing right. Gunther and Pendergast were morons. Gunther played him, DJ, Dorsey and others out of position. Pendergast was just a flat-out dipshit.

Good for him that he got out.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Seems like your argument, Mic, all boils down to him being expendable because we hadn't invested highly in him like we have Cassel and Jackson.

Those players who we haven't invested as much in, who are making a small salary, are usually the players that make or break a franchise.

Having talented low-priced players is essential to being successful and making a championship run.

Scott Pioli, of ALL ****ING PEOPLE, should know that.

When/if McCluster and Arenas are nothing more than average the next two years, should they be flat-out cut?

They won't be, because Pioli's ego won't allow it.

Pollard wasn't his pick. Therefore, he's gone. And is successful elsewhere.

Meanwhile, his being cut proved nothing - we cut a player with potential without any reward in return.

That's bad decision making any way you slice it.

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Seems like your argument, Mic, all boils down to him being expendable because we hadn't invested highly in him like we have Cassel and Jackson.

Or it might also be mindful of the fact that he was disgruntled in year one of a regime change, was a liability in pass coverage and missed far too many tackles.

Those players who we haven't invested as much in, who are making a small salary, are usually the players that make or break a franchise.

I'm doing my best not to create a strawman out of this excerpt, but you're making it difficult. Do you really believe losing Pollard BREAKS this franchise?

Having talented low-priced players is essential to being successful and making a championship run.

On this point we agree.

When/if McCluster and Arenas are nothing more than average the next two years, should they be flat-out cut?

Given their roles... Unless they both show something... I wouldn't at all be surprised to see one or both of them gone from or at least have a reduced role on this team.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Micjones

Or it might also be mindful of the fact that he was disgruntled in year one of a regime change, was a liability in pass coverage and missed far too many tackles.

I'm mindful of the fact that is was going into his third year of being mis-used.

If Clancy Pendergast wasn't just as incompetent as Gunther, I wonder if we're even having this conversation.

He was a liability in pass coverage because he was constantly asked to play in coverage. It'd be like putting Tamba Hali at MLB. He'd get abused, because he's being asked to do something that doesn't benefit him or the team.

Originally Posted by Micjones

I'm doing my best not to create a strawman out of this excerpt, but you're making it difficult. Do you really believe losing Pollard BREAKS this franchise?

Losing Pollard alone? Of course not.

Treating young players like shit and cutting them when they defend themselves, however, has the potential to become a bigger issue.

I know I'm not the only person that saw a change in attitude in this team after the Pittsburgh game - i.e. the first game after Haley realized he wasn't getting anywhere by ranting, raving and treating players and assistant coaches like shit.

Originally Posted by Micjones

Given their roles... Unless they both show something... I wouldn't at all be surprised to see one or both of them gone from or at least have a reduced role on this team.

I don't agree. I am enjoying the football talk though.

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I guess you didn't see what he did in Houston?

Yes, I saw him play inspired football after being walked by the team that drafted him with an infinitely more talented assortment of defensive players around him.

You think he couldn't have done that in KC with competent coaching?

It's hard to say...

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by Micjones

Yes, I saw him play inspired football after being walked by the team that drafted him with an infinitely more talented assortment of defensive players around him.



It's hard to say...

He played very well in Houston... Now he has a chip on his shoulder to prove people wrong...