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Old 08-06-2010, 02:23 PM   #1
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I am so sorry for your parents. I would be ashamed beyond belief in any of my kids had this attitude about stealing from others. Or maybe your folks they think this is OK and raised you to belive that stealing is no big deal.

I'll just let it go but I am almost speechless that not only would you steal, but admit it openly and then act as if it's nothing. Good God, what if you were a crime victim and the perp flaunted this type of attitude in your face? Do you have no pride at all?

Wow...thanks again to Dane for expressing things so much better than I could. I'm just sort of shocked. This really does remind me of that Midnight Vulture dude coming on here and bragging about swiping a laptop.
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Old 08-06-2010, 02:33 PM   #2
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I for one have not watched any of the copyrighted stuff on here. I just read threads.

I could understand you feeling that someone is being hypocritcal if they call you out while doing similar things. But, I don't. Of course you could call me a liar and continue with the justification.

Omaha makes a good point, you don't steal much.

The guy who shot and killed his wife in Olathe only killed a little compared to Adolph Hitler, but most would still call him a murderer.

It's not about the amount, it's the principle involved.

Integrity is about doing what is right even when nobody else knows it or will ever know it. And as we grow older integrity becomes more and more important. At least in my family it does. It is one of the few things in life that can't be purchased.

Sorry to come across like I did, but this is personal and while I can take abuse, I get angry when it's my kids getting it. I'm usually not riled up to this extent and am truly uncomfortable with it. But man, you and others who do this piracy stuff are having a big impact on my family - even if your part is small. It's a collective thing.

If you were the only one on Earth doing your small amount, then it probably wouldn't matter but with so many doing it and thinking it's OK, it is a big deal.

Sorry for the harshness, but this is my kid, his life, his money, his career. What if it were your child that someone was messing with? Would that not concern you?
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Old 08-06-2010, 02:35 PM   #3
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I for one have not watched any of the copyrighted stuff on here. I just read threads.

I could understand you feeling that someone is being hypocritcal if they call you out while doing similar things. But, I don't. Of course you could call me a liar and continue with the justification.

Omaha makes a good point, you don't steal much.

The guy who shot and killed his wife in Olathe only killed a little compared to Adolph Hitler, but most would still call him a murderer.

It's not about the amount, it's the principle involved.

Integrity is about doing what is right even when nobody else knows it or will ever know it. And as we grow older integrity becomes more and more important. At least in my family it does. It is one of the few things in life that can't be purchased.

Sorry to come across like I did, but this is personal and while I can take abuse, I get angry when it's my kids getting it. I'm usually not riled up to this extent and am truly uncomfortable with it. But man, you and others who do this piracy stuff are having a big impact on my family - even if your part is small. It's a collective thing.

If you were the only one on Earth doing your small amount, then it probably wouldn't matter but with so many doing it and thinking it's OK, it is a big deal.

Sorry for the harshness, but this is my kid, his life, his money, his career. What if it were your child that someone was messing with? Would that not concern you?
I've seen Vedera cover songs, did they give the % of the money that night to the original recording artist?
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Old 08-06-2010, 02:42 PM   #4
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I've seen Vedera cover songs, did they give the % of the money that night to the original recording artist?
To my knowledge, yes - they do everything legally.

And thanks for hearing them!
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Old 08-06-2010, 02:45 PM   #5
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To my knowledge, yes - they do everything legally.

And thanks for hearing them!
Dane....call MGMT's rep and see if they are getting paid by vedera. They aren't, nor is vedera paying joan jett
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Old 08-06-2010, 02:47 PM   #6
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Dane....call MGMT's rep and see if they are getting paid by vedera. They aren't, nor is vedera paying joan jett
Yeah, they do the right thing. Thanks man!
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Old 08-06-2010, 02:52 PM   #7
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Yeah, they do the right thing. Thanks man!
Pretty impressive... I actually like... And no I will not pirate this, I will go and download it from my itunes account...

Just incase someone was picking up some stones...
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Old 08-06-2010, 02:47 PM   #8
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Dane....call MGMT's rep and see if they are getting paid by vedera. They aren't, nor is vedera paying joan jett
Dude, they're signed to Epic. For Epic to have released cover versions, they would have had to file for a mechanical license with the Harry Fox Agency, which handles all licensing in the U.S.

I'm certain that the original composer(s) is being paid correctly.
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Old 08-06-2010, 02:49 PM   #9
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Dude, they're signed to Epic. For Epic to have released cover versions, they would have had to file for a mechanical license with the Harry Fox Agency, which handles all licensing in the U.S.

I'm certain that the original composer(s) is being paid correctly.
I once saw Vedera cover Happy Birthday.....freaking pirates.
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Old 08-06-2010, 02:37 PM   #10
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I for one have not watched any of the copyrighted stuff on here. I just read threads.

I could understand you feeling that someone is being hypocritcal if they call you out while doing similar things. But, I don't. Of course you could call me a liar and continue with the justification.

Omaha makes a good point, you don't steal much.

The guy who shot and killed his wife in Olathe only killed a little compared to Adolph Hitler, but most would still call him a murderer.

It's not about the amount, it's the principle involved.

Integrity is about doing what is right even when nobody else knows it or will ever know it. And as we grow older integrity becomes more and more important. At least in my family it does. It is one of the few things in life that can't be purchased.

Sorry to come across like I did, but this is personal and while I can take abuse, I get angry when it's my kids getting it. I'm usually not riled up to this extent and am truly uncomfortable with it. But man, you and others who do this piracy stuff are having a big impact on my family - even if your part is small. It's a collective thing.

If you were the only one on Earth doing your small amount, then it probably wouldn't matter but with so many doing it and thinking it's OK, it is a big deal.

Sorry for the harshness, but this is my kid, his life, his money, his career. What if it were your child that someone was messing with? Would that not concern you?
I appreciate your honesty and your rebuttal. That really makes it set in. Thanks and best of luck to your kids career.

Care to share a website about thier bands?
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I appreciate your honesty and your rebuttal. That really makes it set in. Thanks and best of luck to your kids career.

Care to share a website about thier bands?
Their website is at the bottom of my posts. Again, sorry to lash out at you - I know it's a much larger issue than one guy.
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Their website is at the bottom of my posts. Again, sorry to lash out at you - I know it's a much larger issue than one guy.
No biggie, Checking out the songs... I can already tell you that my 18 year old daughter will love them...

Sending it on her....
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Old 08-06-2010, 02:50 PM   #13
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No biggie, Checking out the songs... I can already tell you that my 18 year old daughter will love them...

Sending it on her....
can I get her email? I got some songs for her.
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can I get her email? I got some songs for her.
Sure

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Their website is at the bottom of my posts. Again, sorry to lash out at you - I know it's a much larger issue than one guy.
Hey, I just checked them out. Very cool! Not what I was expecting. Cool sound. Are they from KC?
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