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Old 08-21-2010, 06:57 PM  
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1st half conniption fit....I mean commentary

Oh noes....we are tied 10-10....

Oh noes....our pre-season playcalling is for shit....

Oh noes....Charles didn't get enough carries.....

Oh noes...our front 7 sucks......



I thought we looked pretty good. Better than we did last week. Front 7 played good, we got burned on a missed tackle by a DB.....that isn't the front 7's fault
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Old 08-21-2010, 09:39 PM   #46
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See two posts above yours.

If you're naive enough to think that this will work for 16 games in the regular season, be my guest.

And if you've lowered you're expectations so much that 10 points in 2 quarters against a piss-poor defense is a good showing, so be it.

I'll watch on Monday/Tuesday and come to my own conclusions, but it sounds like much of the same, only against a lessor opponent.
JFC, it's pre-season.
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Old 08-21-2010, 09:40 PM   #47
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Big if? Hardly. Did you not pay attention last year? Once Charles took over the offense improved immensely because it opened things up for the passing game. We are not going to be an air-Manning team. Cassel is not that kind of QB. I think people are just getting bent for no reason right now.
Uh Matt Cassel's passing stats were actually worse with Charles.
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Old 08-21-2010, 09:40 PM   #48
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That's what I say, albeit on a shitty internet broadcast.

Cassel has shown NO ability, IMO, to even be an average QB. Take a look at the Seattle-Green Bay game that's on right now. Charlie Whitehurst is a leader, knows how to improvise and is obviously a player (for $4 million a year, no less).

Cassel is Grbac part 2 with Gannon's arm strength.

And the defense looks as bad as advertised. When second year QB and a 4th round rookie WR consistently carve up your first team defense, you've got problems.
14-19 125 isn't average? Dane did you even watch the game?
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Old 08-21-2010, 09:41 PM   #49
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Big if? Hardly. Did you not pay attention last year? Once Charles took over the offense improved immensely because it opened things up for the passing game. We are not going to be an air-Manning team. Cassel is not that kind of QB. I think people are just getting bent for no reason right now.
The passing game regressed when Charles took over, IIRC.

And it has nothing to do with "getting bent." It has everything to do with having realistic expectations once the bullets actually start flying for real.

You can't be one-dimensional in this league when you have a limited amount of talent.

Tell an NFL defense they only have to defend a box 10 yards deep, sideline to sideline, and even the worst will lick their chops.

I think 10 points in just under 4 quarters of work from the 1's speaks for itself.
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If we apply the same logic that OTW is using then Tom Brady sucks as well.
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Old 08-21-2010, 09:41 PM   #51
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That's what I say, albeit on a shitty internet broadcast.

Cassel has shown NO ability, IMO, to even be an average QB. Take a look at the Seattle-Green Bay game that's on right now. Charlie Whitehurst is a leader, knows how to improvise and is obviously a player (for $4 million a year, no less).

Cassel is Grbac part 2 with Gannon's arm strength.

And the defense looks as bad as advertised. When second year QB and a 4th round rookie WR consistently carve up your first team defense, you've got problems.
Where do you keep getting this carved up shit? They had 1 big play because of a bad tackle that gave them 50+ of their yards and 7 of their 10 pts. They had a short, short field and only came away with 3 pts. Where are you getting this carved up shit?
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Old 08-21-2010, 09:42 PM   #52
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Dane, I don't give a **** if we threw 25-4 yd passes if it results in a score. 14-19 for 125 and a TD is a great line any QB would take and any coach would accept.
Against the youngest team in the league? A team that scored just as many points?

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Old 08-21-2010, 09:43 PM   #53
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If we apply the same logic that OTW is using then Tom Brady sucks as well.
Guess so.
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Where do you keep getting this carved up shit? They had 1 big play because of a bad tackle that gave them 50+ of their yards and 7 of their 10 pts. They had a short, short field and only came away with 3 pts. Where are you getting this carved up shit?
These guys are paper champions it's apparent they don't watch the game and only go by stats (unless it's Cassel)
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Where do you keep getting this carved up shit? They had 1 big play because of a bad tackle that gave them 50+ of their yards and 7 of their 10 pts. They had a short, short field and only came away with 3 pts. Where are you getting this carved up shit?
How many times was Mike Williams open and how many times did the ball go there? It was a consistent theme of the first half.

And his point is valid, you take a defense and tell them they only have to defend a 10 yard box and watch what happens...not to mention the Chiefs defense is not going to consistently get stops..

How's this story end?
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Against the youngest team in the league? A team that scored just as many points?

I give up.
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Guess so.
It's true the other night vs ATL Brady was dinking and dunking it to Welker all game and missed Randy Moss down field who had the secondary beat. Welker has been one of the league leader in catches the last few years how many of those do you want to be were thrown from less than 5 yards?
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Old 08-21-2010, 09:46 PM   #58
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And that Randy Moss guy and that deep shot to him is why those passes to Welker are open...try that here without that deep threat and watch how it's defended.
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If we apply the same logic that OTW is using then Tom Brady sucks as well.
?

You're comparing a guy that has won 3 Super Bowl rings, and had a better completion percentage from 11-20 yards last year than Cassel did overall - to a preseason performance against one of the worst defenses in the league - and only scoring 10 points to boot?

You might want to look in the mirror if you're looking for flawed logic.

Tom Brady has no problem throwing the ball downfield.
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And that Randy Moss guy and that deep shot to him is why those passes to Welker are open...try that here without that deep threat and watch how it's defended.
You actually just made a great for argument. Chambers/Bowe sure aren't Randy Moss.
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