Joe Montana shits on Rudy

[Hammock Parties]

I love this.



http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...n=ncaaf-268408

Biopic fans will be shocked – shocked! – to learn that Hollywood takes liberties with the real-life narratives and characters that often come to stand in for history in the popular imagination. In the case of the enduring 1993 hit "Rudy," the film was so unrecognizably warped beyond the existence of an undersized Notre Dame player who registered an improbable sack against Georgia Tech in 1975 that former Irish coach Dan Devine called certain scenes – notably the climactic moment when Rudy's teammates confront Devine's villainous character by handing in their jerseys to get Rudy on the dress list, and later his reluctance to actually put Rudy in the game – "unforgivable" and "a lie."

Hall of Famer Joe Montana, then a lowly freshman lingering somewhere on the depth chart, doesn't remember it quite as harshly. But as he told radio host Dan Patrick on Wednesday, he certainly doesn't remember any uplifting strings swelling in the rafters, either:

DP: Were you there when Rudy was there?

JM: Yeah. It's a movie, remember. Not all of that is true.

DP: What wasn't true?

JM: Well, the crowd wasn't chanting. No one threw in their jerseys. He did get in the game. He got carried off [at the end of] the game. [...] Back then they tried to play someone at the end of [the season] that all the seniors could get in the last home game.

The schedule was kind of set that way. So he got in. He did get a sack. And then the guys carried him off, just playing around. I won't say it was a joke, but it was playing around. He worked his butt off to get where he was and to do the things he did. But not any harder than anyone else.

And so reality continues its long unbeaten streak against trumped-up sentiment – not that Rudy Ruettiger minds, now that he's parlayed his 15 minutes into a steady career as motivational speaker and "corporate trainer." I suppose anyone who's able to inspire and sell a bogus feel-good movie about himself being a run-of-the-mill scrub is destined for success.

[seclark]

Originally Posted by oldandslow

Joe Montana reminds me of the great baseball pitcher, Steve Carlton. Crazy as hell, pretty aloof, and somewhat reclusive.

From Carlton's biography...

Carlton had a unique relationship with the media. When he struggled early in his career, Carlton remembers the media portrayed him rather harshly. Carlton states, “I got slammed quite a bit. To pick up the paper and read about yourself getting slammed, that doesn’t start your day off right.” This negative view of the press led Carlton to refrain from speaking to the media from 1984 through the end of his career. Sports author Peter Golenbock summarized Carlton’s characteristic personality when he wrote, “Steve Carlton was not your normal guy. On the mound, he would tune out all distractions. Off the mound, he did the same. If he considered you the distraction, he’d direct at you an icy stare. Teammates considered him to be a recluse. He hated to sign autographs. He pissed people off with his stand-offishness and arrogance. One baseball writer wrote, "The two best pitchers in baseball this year don't speak English. One is Fernando Valenzuala, the other is Steve Carlton."

Carlton was also the finest left handed pitcher of his generation.”

Put Montana's name in place of Carlton's and you have the same player in different sports.

carlton also pretty much had his own personal catcher.
tim mccarver followed him from the cards to the phillies.
and i think he quit talking to the media in 1974, not 1984.
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[MOhillbilly]

Never seen rudy cause im a man. gave GC a rare posi rep. funny shit. FTW.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Cool han Luke

I get it. He may be a prick, I don't care. Him being a prick and him being the greatest QB of all time are two different things. It's Dane's preogative to hate Joe Montana for him being a prick. I'm going to like Joe Montana for being one of the greatest of all time.

News Flash GoChiefs, I have said manny times I don't spell good. I cheated through out school was a C- average student BFD. I tend to spell words the way they sound to me. Deal with it.

You know, I hated school.

I skipped as many days as possible, slept through classes, never took any homework home.

Hell, after getting the books at the start of the year, I threw 'em in my locker, and didn't take them out until the end of the year to turn them in.


Even with all that, I think I do a pretty good job of spelling.

It ain't that hard to get it right.

[MOhillbilly]

Originally Posted by milkman

You know, I hated school.

I skipped as many days as possible, slept through classes, never took any homework home.

Hell, after getting the books at the start of the year, I threw 'em in my locker, and didn't take them out until the end of the year to turn them in.


Even with all that, I think I do a pretty good job of spelling.

It ain't that hard to get it right.

oh stfu.

[gblowfish]

Originally Posted by ROR

Joe is going to go upstairs and masturbate now.

Say It Ain't So, Joe...

[BWillie]

Did it ever occur to you that Montana might be a shy, reclusive down to earth guy who just isn't interested in making fans remember his legacy by being in a bunch of commercials or a talking head for the network. If youre going to call him an asshole at least have some personal experience or encounter with him as an example.

[tomahawk kid]

Having met Joe Montana before, I'd say shy and aloof and pretty good adjectives.

I wouldn't say he's a prick though.

[Jenson71]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I can't go into specifics tonight. Too much shit happening, so I'll leave you with this:

In the Information Age, where is Joe Montana?

.....

He retired more than 16 years ago. He has no endorsements, no commercial presence.

These are seriously ridiculous reasoning skills, Dane.

And your statements aren't even factually correct. A simple google search shows that he has had endorsements with Tombstone Pizza, Schick, L.A. Gear, McCormick spices, and yes, currently, Sketchers.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Jenson71

These are seriously ridiculous reasoning skills, Dane.

And your statements aren't even factually correct. A simple google search shows that he has had endorsements with Tombstone Pizza, Schick, L.A. Gear, McCormick spices, and yes, currently, Sketchers.

WTF?

[bobbything]

I met Montana at the Tanners on 87th a few years ago. He was a pretty nice guy IMO. He had just tabbed out and stayed and talked to me for about 15 minutes before he took off.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Montana was one of the most wooden studio analysts I've ever seen. He had a constant deer in the headlights look.

It could just be that he was a horrible analyst.

Yes

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by milkman

You know, I hated school.

I skipped as many days as possible, slept through classes, never took any homework home.

Hell, after getting the books at the start of the year, I threw 'em in my locker, and didn't take them out until the end of the year to turn them in.


Even with all that, I think I do a pretty good job of spelling.

It ain't that hard to get it right.

Ok, so your better than me at spelling, I don't give a Matt Cassel.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Cool han Luke

Ok, so your better than me at spelling, I don't give a Matt Cassel.

[Brock]

Who cares if Joe's a dick? Rudy is a phony who believes his own bullshit story.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Although, in fairness, wasn't he the only one of the SB MVPs who didn't come out at SB XL because he wanted some kind of exorbitant fee?

Edit: He was one of three who didn't.

Like I said earlier I think Joe has a problem having gone from a supertar to nobody wanting him for anything. He thought there was going to be a big payday after football and that never materialized for him. Not only does he have zero communication ability he doesn't even understand how his actions are going to be perceived. That's not really surprising considering that is usually a package deal. The guy has done charity work and doesn't come across as having a big ego though. The only guy I really know from that team was Roger Craig and he said Joe was actually a really cool guy.