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Hootie · 10-06-2010, 12:02 AM

I want the email address for the CEO of an accounting firm named BDO...

http://www.bdo.com/

Or an email address where I can be heard...not just that shitty contact form.

I need my voice to be heard.

POSITIVE REP for good detective work.

**Donger** · 10-06-2010, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

Depends on the waiter's level of service, I would say.

Huh? If they are bringing me food they know is crap, but they do so with flair and attentiveness, you think they deserve a tip?

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 10-06-2010, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefsnorth

You didn't answer the question. Who benefits from telling a customer their money is no good at my restaurant?

The kids that won't make minimum wage when they come back and do it again next month. Like I said, go ahead and fire him for it. But the next guy will do it too. And the guy after that, and so on and so forth. When you pay your employees based off of your customers bridging that gap, and those customers don't, in situations like this, it can get pretty volatile. You made your money, those kids were just used and abused for under minimum wage.

**Bugeater** · 10-06-2010, 11:01 AM

I will say this much, Hootie should've consulted with the restaurant owner before doing anything on his own. But if they ignored the situation, it's at that point all bets are off. You just can't sit back and let your employees take it in the ass like that and not expect some kind of backlash.

sedated · 10-06-2010, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

No. Because you don't care about anything but YOUR bottom line. You haven't taken into consideration for one second that these kids made LESS than minimum wage last night. That's not acceptable to me.

its the company's bottom line that keeps the emplyees employed.

ClevelandBronco · 10-06-2010, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

Why are you taking this so personally? Of course it none of my business when cheap people decide to stiff servers who have absolutely nothing to do with the way your food tastes. Why would I shut the **** up when this is the forum for stating your opinions. You can tip however you like, it doesn't change the fact that the tip is meant for the server and not the cook. The cooks don't make 40% of minimum wage.

If there's a coherent point to be found here, I can't identify it.

eazyb81 · 10-06-2010, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

That's right! Because maintaining a good relationship with your employees has absolutely no effect on your business.

Maintaining a good relationship with your employees = ruining corporate relationships?

It's obvious you have never operated a successful business. Fine line between going to bat for employees and losing high-revenue clients.

chiefsnorth · 10-06-2010, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

That's right! Because maintaining a good relationship with your employees has absolutely no effect on your business.

I cultivate that relationship in many different ways. Telling business customers to spend their expense account money elsewhere is not one of them. You maintain a good working environment and meet their needs as closely as you can on scheduling and hours, empower them to do their jobs well across the board.

But having a cancerous employee who is out there actively driving away business is not part of the game plan. He is costing me future revenues and the rest of the staff future tables and tip income. Nobody wins.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 10-06-2010, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by sedated

its the company's bottom line that keeps the emplyees employed.

No. Not at $4 an hour. It's the customers who are expected to do that. And restaurant owners LOVE that. This time, it's not working out very well for them. But that's the risk of doing business, right?

Pants · 10-06-2010, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger

Huh? If they are bringing me food they know is crap, but they do so with flair and attentiveness, you think they deserve a tip?

Yes. What's so hard to understand about that? The tip is meant for the waiter, not the cook or the restaurant. If you don't like the meal, don't go there again.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 10-06-2010, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Maintaining a good relationship with your employees = ruining corporate relationships?

It's obvious you have never operated a successful business. Fine line between going to bat for employees and losing high-revenue clients.

Throwing away good employees who work every day, for years at a time, in order to satisfy someone who comes in one time out of the blue, is a pretty stupid way of doing business as well. Amirite?

**Bugeater** · 10-06-2010, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sedated

its the company's bottom line that keeps the emplyees employed.

Yes, it is, but if you start losing good employees because you let customers screw them over it's going to have an effect on your bottom line as well. A balance has to be achieved, the employee shouldn't have to get the short end of every deal.

ClevelandBronco · 10-06-2010, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

No. Because you don't care about anything but YOUR bottom line. You haven't taken into consideration for one second that these kids made LESS than minimum wage last night. That's not acceptable to me.

These kids are serving pizza. I think the learning curve of their replacements can be absorbed by the business if they don't like their jobs.

kstater · 10-06-2010, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

It's a pizza place...

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InChiefsHeaven · 10-06-2010, 11:07 AM

When I waited tables at Pizza Hut in high school, we got waitress wage of 2.35 (as I recall). You're tips had to make up the difference to the minimum wage of 3.35\hr. This was like 1986 or so. If you didn't make enough in tips, your employer was responsible for making up the difference. In other words, it did everyone well if you did good on tips. That should still be the case, so these kids shouldn't have made less than minimum wage. But the employer should be pissed about the fact that they have to make up the difference...it should have been included on the bill.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 10-06-2010, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefsnorth

I cultivate that relationship in many different ways. Telling business customers to spend their expense account money elsewhere is not one of them. You maintain a good working environment and meet their needs as closely as you can on scheduling and hours, empower them to do their jobs well across the board.

But having a cancerous employee who is out there actively driving away business is not part of the game plan. He is costing me future revenues and the rest of the staff future tables and tip income. Nobody wins.

Doesn't sound to me like there was any future tip income, and that being the case, they're dead weight to the people you're already not paying worth a shit. I can't believe this is so hard to understand.

Having a bad table is one thing, waiters deal with that. Having a group come in and tie up an entire restaurant for the night, is another.

But I will say this. Suck it up this time. Say nothing. But make sure you add the gratuity every time they walk in the door in the future. That is absolutely correct, and I can't even argue against it. Hootie over reacted in this situation. Bad night. Them's the breaks. Make sure it never happens again should they walk back through the door.

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