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Old 11-04-2010, 03:09 PM  
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Collinsworth and Simms debate Matt Cassel
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Old 11-05-2010, 08:54 AM   #196
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Orton is going to throw it and catch it too?
If he threw it to himself, sure.

I'm certain he'd be more accurate on that throw than Cassel, like every other.
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Old 11-05-2010, 08:55 AM   #197
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Orton is going to throw it and catch it too?
Oh no. I feel another "Matt needs more weapons" take coming on.

Look Matt is working out just fine for us this year. He's not throwing picks and doing his job. Great! Maybe we can eek out a playoff win.

But he's not a top tier QB required to win a SB. We're all in agreement there right?

So long term he's simply not the answer.
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Old 11-05-2010, 09:07 AM   #198
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If you have watched every game Matt Cassel has QB'ed and you've come away thinking "This guy is a legit NFL QB"; then you need to take up another hobby.

He is far and away the weakest link on our entire team. I like his personality. I think he's tough. I root for the guy; but you can paint a turd and it's still just a pretty piece of shit.
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Old 11-05-2010, 09:17 AM   #199
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Cassel can make more throws that the ones they're asking of him. If this is the most he can do...then why start him? I'm sure Croyle can do more then. And if Croyle can't do more, then we have the worst QB situation in history.
In my memory of Croyle, he was more accurate and has the stronger arm. The question is size/health and has he the knowledge of the playbook. If it's marginally close, I don't know why he couldn't do everything that Cassel is doing, and more. -just my .02
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Old 11-05-2010, 09:19 AM   #200
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For those fans in KC that can't stand Cassel. I invite you to find another team to be a fan of.

How about I keep my own opinion, still root for the chiefs and hope like hell the coaches figure out Cassel isn't the best option for MY CHIEF TEAM! So **** off
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Old 11-05-2010, 09:20 AM   #201
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In my memory of Croyle, he was more accurate and has the stronger arm. The question is size/health and has he the knowledge of the playbook. If it's marginally close, I don't know why he couldn't do everything that Cassel is doing, and more. -just my .02
I don't think Croyle is very accurate. In fact, in short passes (which the team is stressing right now) the guy lacks any touch whatsoever.
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Old 11-05-2010, 09:29 AM   #202
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My point is i would rather have wins than yardage. That is my logic. Im not saying we wouldnt have more wins if cassel had ortens numbers, but i wouldnt make that sacrafice if it meant we would be 2-6 right now
But it's not an either-or decision. Believe it or not, it's possible to have both wins and yardage.

To think that an increase in passing yards would somehow mean we'd be 2-6 is just incomprehensible to me. If Cassel were carrying this team, you might have a point. But our running game is putting up more yards per game than our passing game at the moment. Think about that for a second. We're averaging more running yards per game than passing yards.
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Old 11-05-2010, 09:41 AM   #203
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Old 11-05-2010, 09:56 AM   #204
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But it's not an either-or decision. Believe it or not, it's possible to have both wins and yardage.

To think that an increase in passing yards would somehow mean we'd be 2-6 is just incomprehensible to me. If Cassel were carrying this team, you might have a point. But our running game is putting up more yards per game than our passing game at the moment. Think about that for a second. We're averaging more running yards per game than passing yards.
As long as we play to our strengths we have a good chance, great run game and great defenses is a winning formula, cassel is obviously not the answer but he is the starter. When the offseason comes around that's when we can start looking at other options, but as far as croyle goes I don't see him as a better option, IMO
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Old 11-05-2010, 10:06 AM   #205
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As long as we play to our strengths we have a good chance, great run game and great defenses is a winning formula, cassel is obviously not the answer but he is the starter. When the offseason comes around that's when we can start looking at other options, but as far as croyle goes I don't see him as a better option, IMO
What does that have to do with the wins and yardage discussion?

And just because Cassel is the starter, that doesn't mean we all have to shrug and just accept it, and love him for the sake of team affiliation. I love this team and the progress they've made. But that doesn't mean I have to like the turd chucker behind center.
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Turd chucker....lol, ya I'm not his biggest fan either but I don't see croyle coming in and winning more games than cassel would, and since he's the only other option I think we are stuck with cassel for now. In the offseason it's another story
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I don't think Croyle is very accurate. In fact, in short passes (which the team is stressing right now) the guy lacks any touch whatsoever.
Just as accurate as Cassel, if he has the playbook, he's might be worth the try.
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