Speaketh, Dear ChiefsPlanet...

[Chiefs Pantalones]

What are your feelings on the Chiefs since the loss? And don't base it on the fact that we lost, but how we played in that loss. Has your outlook and/or expectations changed? Do you still feel like we are winning this division?

It seems some of the excitement has since disappeared. No more playoff expectations? Our schedule is favorable but just as we can beat anybody, we proved this past Sunday we can lose to even crap teams like the Raiders.

Thoughts?


hugs and kisses,

VT

[crossbow]

We are paying for the decision to spend the third overall draft pick on a reach instead of getting a franchise QB. Other then that, the moves have been solid. The trouble is: the one mistake they made was huge.

At least the Chiefs are fun to watch again and they don't look disorganized and Hermified.

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD

Do you want to relive the 90s again?

The 90's was great compared to the last few seasons. Always being a playoff contender, making a Championship game...we had some good teams.

You're acting like we could just happen to make a superbowl.....Last time I checked you have to make the playoffs and build a team before you can win a superbowl....That is what we are doing. I think we are on the right path.

You are saying you WANT us to lose. That is ****ing lame IMO. I want to win every game.

[kysirsoze]

Originally Posted by GoChiefsTinyPenis

You mean the TD pass to Tucker that he clearly didn't get two feet down?

Or the phantom 30 yard pass interference penalty against Chris Johnson that lead to KC's first phantom TD pass to Tucker?

Or the "fumble" on the punt return by Nick Miller that clearly wasn't?

Or the many uncalled holding penalties against Brian Waters on the plays that Seymour wasn't making him look like his woman?

Or, wait. Nevermind, you're a homer.

And you are a dumbass. The PI call was awful, no doubt, but so was the defensive holding call later on the Chiefs. On the fumble, the side view showed the ball was moving before he went down. I'll concede it cause it's close, but that was far from bullshit.

Tucker absolutely got theTD and Hali was held on 80% of his plays at least, including the last one.

The refs blew this game from top to bottom, but get your homery bullshit out of here.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by Gif Horse

I feel like we lost the Super Bowl.

It's gonna take a couple solid wins for me to get my homer legs back under me.

This , but if you look at the big picture we've been in EVERY single game we lost. We could easily be 8-0 if just a few balls bounced our way. We could just step up and run the table from here on out.

[BossChief]

This place will be rocking again after we destroy the Donkeys this week in a statement game.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by BossChief

This place will be rocking again after we destroy the Donkeys this week in a statement game.

Every "statement game" we've had we've lost.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

My thoughts are that people always overrate this team after a win, and are Chicken Littles after a loss. Few rarely display the ability to see this team in the long term. The events of this season really haven't changed the long term outlook of this franchise very much:

We still need a QB
We still need help rushing the passer
We still need additional depth on the defensive line, especially at NT

[Chiefshrink]

We need to learn as a team to "put the nail in the coffin". We play well enough to win but in golfing terms our guys need to remember to "sign their scorecard", especially Bowe! F**K!!!

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

My thoughts are that people always overrate this team after a win, and are Chicken Littles after a loss. Few rarely display the ability to see this team in the long term. The events of this season really haven't changed the long term outlook of this franchise very much:

We still need a QB
We still need help rushing the passer
We still need additional depth on the defensive line, especially at NT

Do you think this team is winning the division?

[Goldmember]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

My thoughts are that people always overrate this team after a win, and are Chicken Littles after a loss. Few rarely display the ability to see this team in the long term. The events of this season really haven't changed the long term outlook of this franchise very much:

We still need a QB
We still need help rushing the passer
We still need additional depth on the defensive line, especially at NT

Agree with you on those and add that they need a true #1 WR

[Goldmember]

I got a bit excited after they destroyed SF, but not to the point of them running away with the division. I didn't think they would beat Indy, Houston or Oakland. I thought they had more trouble with Buffalo than I thought they would and that led me to believe they stood a good chance to lose in Oakland. I think they will finish 9-7 and no playoffs and SD will finish 10-6.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

My thoughts are that people always overrate this team after a win, and are Chicken Littles after a loss. Few rarely display the ability to see this team in the long term. The events of this season really haven't changed the long term outlook of this franchise very much:

We still need a QB
We still need help rushing the passer
We still need additional depth on the defensive line, especially at NT

Correct, people are extremely fickle, and it's like they start with a clean slate every season. At most, you can spot trends over the course of 1/4th of a season, and with a young & inexperienced team, even that can be difficult with so much parity. Regardless of whether they win 7 games or 10, make the playoffs this season, whatever, they're making progress towards being a contender in the playoffs... outside of that $60m question.

[milkman]

This team is better than I expected, so I'm content to just let the season play out and find out where we at the end of the season.

7 to 9 wins were far beyond my expectation.

[KCwolf]

Originally Posted by kysirsoze

And you are a dumbass. The PI call was awful, no doubt, but so was the defensive holding call later on the Chiefs. On the fumble, the side view showed the ball was moving before he went down. I'll concede it cause it's close, but that was far from bullshit.

Tucker absolutely got theTD and Hali was held on 80% of his plays at least, including the last one.

The refs blew this game from top to bottom, but get your homery bullshit out of here.

The officiating was horrid.....on both sides of the ball. I hope we do not see that crew again....ever.

[CrazyPhuD]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

The 90's was great compared to the last few seasons. Always being a playoff contender, making a Championship game...we had some good teams.

You're acting like we could just happen to make a superbowl.....Last time I checked you have to make the playoffs and build a team before you can win a superbowl....That is what we are doing. I think we are on the right path.

You are saying you WANT us to lose. That is ****ing lame IMO. I want to win every game.

Hey I want to win games too but the simple fact is we won't win a SB with cassel at the helm. Anything that results in his removal from this team is a positive step forward for this team, if that means losing every reaming game this year then 110% I hope that happens. It's not about winning or losing it's about getting rid of cassel.

Right now it looks like we are following the model of the 90s and that model is absolutely a failed model. It doesn't matter what we do in the regular season, what matters is what we do in the post season and the simple reality is we haven't won a playoff game since 1994. The last time we won a playoff game we had an elite(albeit aging) QB. Since then we haven't won shit. Some people like cock teases, personally I don't, you either win or you lose and the 90s chiefs are my definition of losers.

Following their model will just result in yet another 15 years of frustration. Hey it's great that we're not sucking, but now it's time to take that next step and simply put, we can't take that next step with cassel.

I like winning as much as the next guy, but if we can't actually do something in the playoffs does it really matter what we do in the regular season. See this is the fraud that's placed upon every fan, if you're running your football team as a business you care substantially less about winning in the playoffs. Winning consistently in the regular season is what sells season tickets, the 90s chiefs are a model of this. People will sell out the regular season, and you'll always sell out any games in the playoffs, but if you don't go anywhere what's the point? There's a strong incentive not to suck in the regular season because then you have empty stadiums, less TV revenue and the team may fail. But if you succeed in the regular season and sell out your games is there s strong incentive to win a SB?

I don't think so at least financially, teams are content to make the playoffs and sell out regular season games. But if you do nothing once you get there then what's the point. To me any team that can't win in the playoffs is an extremely mediocre team.

So yes I would take a whole lot of pain this year to give us a chance next year. Anything to get rid of cassel. If we do just 'ok' cassel won't likely get booted, because his contact is too big. But if we lose quite a few games, directly because of him then he is gone, and this team is better off.

Maybe you don't like it, but I'd like to think of the Chiefs as world champions, to me making the playoffs doesn't mean anything any more. There are no prizes for 2nd place.