Chiefs I think its time for the Cassel doubters to eat their crow

ChiefsCountry · 12-19-2010, 03:48 PM

He has to win in the playoffs. Bottom line. I want wins in January and February. This good in the regular season really don't mean shit when it comes down to it. Cassel has played the last couple of months with about everything we want in a franchise QB but it comes down to winning when it counts.

**Ming the Merciless** · 12-19-2010, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

He has to win in the playoffs. Bottom line.

Just Shut up....Jesus....Quit while your ahead....Eat your crow and quietly move on...

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-04-2011, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Just Shut up....Jesus....Quit while your ahead....Eat your crow and quietly move on...

you must eat his regurgitated crow now...

**The Bad Guy** · 12-19-2010, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

He has to win in the playoffs. Bottom line. I want wins in January and February. This good in the regular season really don't mean shit when it comes down to it. Cassel has played the last couple of months with about everything we want in a franchise QB but it comes down to winning when it counts.

And if he doesn't this year, we will get numerous posts from you about how you were right and how he sucks.

The fact this team is even looking at the playoffs in year 2 of a massive rebuild is impressive as hell.

ChiefsCountry · 12-19-2010, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

And if he doesn't this year, we will get numerous posts from you about how you were right and how he sucks.

The fact this team is even looking at the playoffs in year 2 of a massive rebuild is impressive as hell.

We are a year ahead of schedule mainly bc of the play of Cassel this year. I am happy we are winning and he is playing great. But the bottom line is I want playoff wins, I want us to be the Patriots and Steelers. I really don't want to be right at all about Cassel, I'm not some miserable douche like Mecca. I just want the Chiefs to win and to me that means in the postseason.

-King- · 12-19-2010, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

We are a year ahead of schedule mainly bc of the play of Cassel this year. I am happy we are winning and he is playing great. But the bottom line is I want playoff wins, I want us to be the Patriots and Steelers. I really don't want to be right at all about Cassel, I'm not some miserable douche like Mecca. I just want the Chiefs to win and to me that means in the postseason.

Agreed. Hope we can trade for Larry Fitzgerald or draft Julio Jones or someone like that. Our Offense will be dangerous then.

chiefzilla1501 · 12-19-2010, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

We are a year ahead of schedule mainly bc of the play of Cassel this year. I am happy we are winning and he is playing great. But the bottom line is I want playoff wins, I want us to be the Patriots and Steelers. I really don't want to be right at all about Cassel, I'm not some miserable douche like Mecca. I just want the Chiefs to win and to me that means in the postseason.

I agree with your point. Unfortunately, we have to be realistic with the idea that this team isn't quite there yet and that's a pretty tall order for a guy who probably won't get too much help in the playoffs.

Regardless of how well Cassel plays in the playoffs (if we get there), this team as a whole is probably not going deep. All I cared about this season was Cassel proving or not proving he can be a guy we can depend on.

I think it's safe to say he bought another year. However, I'm still on board with drafting a QB early. Say, a Christian Ponder type guy.

ChiefsCountry · 12-19-2010, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I agree with your point. Unfortunately, we have to be realistic with the idea that this team isn't quite there yet and that's a pretty tall order for a guy who probably won't get too much help in the playoffs.

Regardless of how well Cassel plays in the playoffs (if we get there), this team as a whole is probably not going deep. All I cared about this season was Cassel proving or not proving he can be a guy we can depend on.

I think it's safe to say he bought another year. However, I'm still on board with drafting a QB early. Say, a Christian Ponder type guy.

Winning one playoff game this year, can be done. Ravens or Jets would be our opponent more than likely. Both of them have QB's that are the same as Cassel. I'm not expecting a deep run at all. But one win or Cassel proving he is up to the challenge would be nice to see.

The QB I want us to draft is Nathan Enderle from Idaho in the 3rd or 4th.

chiefzilla1501 · 12-19-2010, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Winning one playoff game this year, can be done. Ravens or Jets would be our opponent more than likely. Both of them have QB's that are the same as Cassel. I'm not expecting a deep run at all. But one win or Cassel proving he is up to the challenge would be nice to see.

The QB I want us to draft is Nathan Enderle from Idaho in the 3rd or 4th.

I don't disagree with you here. I want to see something out of him too. But regardless of how well he plays, we're underdogs. Those teams can run the ball better than us and have a shitload more talent than us on defense. Not to mention that they have legit, consistent weapons in the passing game.

For us to win in the playoffs, more than likely Cassel is going to have to overcome the rest of our team being very outmatched. I definitely think the Chiefs can potentially win a first playoff game. But it's a lot to ask and he's going to need some help.

RedThat · 12-19-2010, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

We are a year ahead of schedule mainly bc of the play of Cassel this year. I am happy we are winning and he is playing great. But the bottom line is I want playoff wins, I want us to be the Patriots and Steelers. I really don't want to be right at all about Cassel, I'm not some miserable douche like Mecca. I just want the Chiefs to win and to me that means in the postseason.

Im with you on your post. But, all I got to say is, one step at a time Chiefscountry. One step at a time. Zach said it well lets just keep winning. We control our own destiny. And if the time comes if we do make it, then we could start looking at the playoffs, and want wins. If we don't make it, no point stressing about the playoffs.

*I want the Chiefs to be like the Patriots and Steelers as well. And I think those are the two teams they are trying to be like.

**FRCDFED** · 12-19-2010, 09:35 PM

He has a warrier heart! Definately an intangible that cannot be overlooked. His athleticism also helps him to avoid sacks and create plays.

However, both of those qualities make it easy to overlook his lack of accuracy and arm strength. He has played well at times but is inconsistent at best. Weiss has done a great job trying to create plays that emphasize Cassels strengths.

It has already been mentioned that the schedule is out of his control but you cannot ignore the fact that we played a fairly easy schedule this season. From one perspective it is great for building confidence for a young team and can help us in the long run but it also creates a glass house. Hopefully when the level of competition increases the house doesn't fold.

This team is on the rise but the majority of the credit needs to go to our running game. J. Charles is the reason for this teams success right now and his ability makes the opponent to stack the box against the run which opens up passing lanes for Cassel.

The playoffs may give us a little more of a perspective of what we have in Cassel but if we go one and done then what then? Do we hang it on Cassel? This is a team game and he is merely a component of that team. His arm strength is not the best but if he improves on his reads and makes the easy throws more consistently (like the swing pass he threw today into the bench) then we may have a solid starter nothing more.

milkman · 12-19-2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

We are a year ahead of schedule mainly bc of the play of Cassel this year. I am happy we are winning and he is playing great. But the bottom line is I want playoff wins, I want us to be the Patriots and Steelers. I really don't want to be right at all about Cassel, I'm not some miserable douche like Mecca. I just want the Chiefs to win and to me that means in the postseason.

Here's the thing.

We've watched as Cassel has grown before our very eyes this season, but even were he Peyton Manning, there just isn't enough talent on this team, on either side of the ball, to overcome our shortcomings against SB quality opponents, and that is no way should be a reflection on Cassel.

We saw how much Manning struggles, the guy some think is the best ever, without his full complement of talent around him.

The bottom line, QB is the most important position on the field, and we are seeing Cassel grow into the role of the leader of this team as the weeks go by, but it is still a team sport, hell, the ultimate team sport, and we just have too many deficiencies ot overcome to expect anyone to overcome them.

Marcellus · 12-19-2010, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Here's the thing.

We've watched as Cassel has grown before our very eyes this season, but even were he Peyton Manning, there just isn't enough talent on this team, on either side of the ball, to overcome our shortcomings against SB quality opponents, and that is no way should be a reflection on Cassel.

We saw how much Manning struggles, the guy some think is the best ever, without his full complement of talent around him.

The bottom line, QB is the most important position on the field, and we are seeing Cassel grow into the role of the leader of this team as the weeks go by, but it is still a team sport, hell, the ultimate team sport, and we just have too many deficiencies ot overcome to expect anyone to overcome them.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-19-2010, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Here's the thing.

We've watched as Cassel has grown before our very eyes this season, but even were he Peyton Manning, there just isn't enough talent on this team, on either side of the ball, to overcome our shortcomings against SB quality opponents, and that is no way should be a reflection on Cassel.

We saw how much Manning struggles, the guy some think is the best ever, without his full complement of talent around him.

The bottom line, QB is the most important position on the field, and we are seeing Cassel grow into the role of the leader of this team as the weeks go by, but it is still a team sport, hell, the ultimate team sport, and we just have too many deficiencies ot overcome to expect anyone to overcome them.

Do you really think this offense has less talent than NE's first SB team?

Jermaine Wiggins, FTW.

Marcellus · 12-19-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Do you really think this offense has less talent than NE's first SB team?

Jermaine Wiggins, FTW.

Cassel isn't Brady and Haley isn't BB. I am not naive enough to think otherwise. We need more talent. 99% of teams do.

Dumb correlation.

12-19-2010, 03:48 PM	#1
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $1858752	He has to win in the playoffs. Bottom line. I want wins in January and February. This good in the regular season really don't mean shit when it comes down to it. Cassel has played the last couple of months with about everything we want in a franchise QB but it comes down to winning when it counts.
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12-19-2010, 09:35 PM	#11
FRCDFED Line'em up Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: somewhere out there Casino cash: $9326297	He has a warrier heart! Definately an intangible that cannot be overlooked. His athleticism also helps him to avoid sacks and create plays. However, both of those qualities make it easy to overlook his lack of accuracy and arm strength. He has played well at times but is inconsistent at best. Weiss has done a great job trying to create plays that emphasize Cassels strengths. It has already been mentioned that the schedule is out of his control but you cannot ignore the fact that we played a fairly easy schedule this season. From one perspective it is great for building confidence for a young team and can help us in the long run but it also creates a glass house. Hopefully when the level of competition increases the house doesn't fold. This team is on the rise but the majority of the credit needs to go to our running game. J. Charles is the reason for this teams success right now and his ability makes the opponent to stack the box against the run which opens up passing lanes for Cassel. The playoffs may give us a little more of a perspective of what we have in Cassel but if we go one and done then what then? Do we hang it on Cassel? This is a team game and he is merely a component of that team. His arm strength is not the best but if he improves on his reads and makes the easy throws more consistently (like the swing pass he threw today into the bench) then we may have a solid starter nothing more.
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