2011 Draft Piorities: Pick Three

[Mr. Kotter]

Poll forthcoming

I'd go with NT, WR, OLB....with OT and C "next." Backup/QOTF would be a late round target.

Pick three/four in the draft, and get the other two in FA.

Thoughts?

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The folks that are often quick to disparage the critical as "impatient" are usually the same folks that just assume anyone being critical is doing so as part of a wholesale hatred of the organization. That's just not the case. I'm patient with a lot of guys and lose hope quickly on others. If we bring in a NT that shows promise (i.e. Raji), I would gladly give him time to develop and I'm sure most of the other 'reactionaries' would do the same.

The "I thought he sucked from the get-go" is a poor excuse for not giving players the usual development time, and Raji only made one start as a rookie. But the howls of internet posters should not be a deterrent for Pioli. If there's a top NT prospect, he should definitely think very seriously about taking that player.

[Reerun_KC]

1 BPA
2 BPA
3-5 OL
6-7 dont really care...

[Sofa King]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Dude.....I don't expect any player from the Bills to be consistent on that team. Ownership sucks. Coaching sucks.

Evans was never consistent because he was usually getting double covered because he was their only threat for the longest time. I'm not saying that he's a #1 WR.....but he couldn't hurt to bring in. It's not like our WR core is ****ing exceptional.

personally, i think he'd much of an upgrade over the crap we currently have on our team.


I won't be pissed if we get him, but i won't expect big plays outta him.

[MOhillbilly]

i think this NT draft talk is dumb. Get a OLB and have lewis step up & 2/3rds of the middle gets fixed.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

The "I thought he sucked from the get-go" is a poor excuse for not giving players the usual development time, and Raji only made one start as a rookie. But the howls of internet posters should not be a deterrent for Pioli. If there's a top NT prospect, he should definitely think very seriously about taking that player.

It's not an excuse if it's accurate.

It's not hard to see when players simply lack the ability to excel at this level. When watching Jackson, I will concede that I absolutely see an NFL player there. He's a big guy with legitimate athletic ability. However, he's also a complete idiot and a bit of a loafer.

He's never going to live up to his draft pick. It's just not going to happen. My saying that from the moment the pick was made is hardly unfair gnashing and wailing. It's a statement of belief based on what I've seen. Would you prefer we all just sit around singing Kumbayah until a player's third season?

If the criticism is unreasonable (i.e. Petro's "Barry is a Bust" campaign) call it as such. If the criticism turns out to be inaccurate ("Carr is worthless, cut his ass"), point that out as well.

But if someone calls a spade a spade very early on and this assertion turns out to be accurate, what's unfair about that?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

1 BPA
2 BPA
3-5 OL
6-7 dont really care...

Wow.

We could end up with a truly horrific draft under this approach. I mean an absolutely abysmal one.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Wow.

We could end up with a truly horrific draft under this approach. I mean an absolutely abysmal one.

That is why I am not a draftabulator....


1 BPA (WR, NT or OLB)
2 BPA (WR, NT, OLB or RB)
3-5 OL
6-7 both QB's

Hows that one for ya?

[MOhillbilly]

Im gonna beat the drum for OLB all off season. An upgrade in team speed and a everydown tandum at safety will make this D lethal.

[Rasputin]

I don't think our linebacker chore is as much of a need. Belcher and Studebaker sure have potential. They need the extra playing time, think Vrabel held us back some for that with Studebaker. Also I'd like to see if Cameron Shffield is going to be around next year and what he can bring.

I'd like us to draft a LB in latter rounds but, WR, C, & QB are major needs.

I'd be ok with Cassel starting the season & see how that goes. However we shouldn't have to wait around on him to be that guy he hasn't lived up to the billing to be. If it's going to be an 18 week season all the more reason to draft a QB. Wouldn't hurt to pick up fresh legs for a HB somewhere in the draft also. We should be looking at best possible players through out the draft and not settle on position of need, i kind of like that idea.

Center should be ut most top pryority for FA and draft. I'm not a FA fan for the most part, but center position you got to have a guy to rely on from start to finish.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

That is why I am not a draftabulator....


1 BPA (WR, NT or OLB)
2 BPA (WR, NT, OLB or RB)
3-5 OL
6-7 both QB's

Hows that one for ya?

Well if we take a RB in the 2nd round, I'll kill a kitten. And taking 3 lineman in one draft is putting a lot of eggs in one basket.

But otherwise, I suppose it's not the worst thing I've ever seen.

[MOhillbilly]

http://www.optimumscouting.com/scout...nebackers.html

http://nflsoup.com/?p=6258

article/rankings on 3-4 olbs. seniors only.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Well if we take a RB in the 2nd round, I'll kill a kitten. And taking 3 lineman in one draft is putting a lot of eggs in one basket.

But otherwise, I suppose it's not the worst thing I've ever seen.

Granted that could all change after the FA period...

And yes, if they replace some OL in FA, then some of those wants / requests could change for sure...

But since were just counting draft and not the FA period... Then that would be my wish list for now..


We do seriously have to get another running back.. Jones is old and it showed. Charles is proving that he can not be the main man... He fumbles to easy AND is always dinged... The last thing I want some Moron to say is "give Charles more carries"

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

http://www.optimumscouting.com/scout...nebackers.html

http://nflsoup.com/?p=6258

article/rankings on 3-4 olbs. seniors only.

In other words, it's a pretty poor senior class of OLBs.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It's not an excuse if it's accurate.

It's not hard to see when players simply lack the ability to excel at this level. When watching Jackson, I will concede that I absolutely see an NFL player there. He's a big guy with legitimate athletic ability. However, he's also a complete idiot and a bit of a loafer.

He's never going to live up to his draft pick.

Just look at the top 12 players taken. It was a crappy top to the draft, one of the worst in recent years. That was understood going into the draft, and it's part of why it was basically impossible to trade down at the top for a non-quarterback. Hell, Belichick looked at the draft and traded out of the first round, because he thought the sweet spot in the draft made that the right way to go. I talked about the Chiefs taking Raji at the time, and I still think that would have been a good selection for the team, but the nonsense about living up to a draft pick is just that.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

My saying that from the moment the pick was made is hardly unfair gnashing and wailing. It's a statement of belief based on what I've seen. Would you prefer we all just sit around singing Kumbayah until a player's third season?

Of course it's unfair gnashing and wailing. Whether you like the pick or not, it's made. At that point, you evaluate honestly. You don't look for every single flaw and crack on a guy over it. For crying out loud, you could take any of the top 5 candidates for rookie of the year and shred them if you wanted to. That doesn't mean that it makes sense to be doing it.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

If the criticism is unreasonable (i.e. Petro's "Barry is a Bust" campaign) call it as such. If the criticism turns out to be inaccurate ("Carr is worthless, cut his ass"), point that out as well.

But if someone calls a spade a spade very early on and this assertion turns out to be accurate, what's unfair about that?

Because if you did like the pick, you'd be singing Kumbaya whether or not the guy was playing like shit. The Sanchez fellatio crew have been a great example of that.

[MOhillbilly]

Originally Posted by Cool han Luke

I don't think our linebacker chore is as much of a need. Belcher and Studebaker sure have potential. They need the extra playing time, think Vrabel held us back some for that with Studebaker. Also I'd like to see if Cameron Shffield is going to be around next year and what he can bring.

I think they both suck and studebaker in coverage is a joke.